NBC News Lends a Hand

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Judging from my Twitter feed, many of you saw the segment on Moscow and Christ Church that Meet the Press did. As I have said elsewhere, I am grateful that it was not a hit piece—they let both sides talk, in other words. It was even-handed in that way. At the same time, it was clear that what we were saying must have sounded something like Middle Klingon to them, and this of course affects the editing process. So later today I hope to post a short video (here) of things we wish they had left in. What a difference the edit can make. And there will be more extensive responses in the weeks to come.

If you did miss it, you can find the segment at NBC News.

Or, perhaps you are reluctant to leave this august site, wanting to stay here at Mablog as long as possible. In that case, the You Tube version is below.

The full episode of “Meet the Press Reports that the piece is a part of can be found here. This includes a panel discussion of our endearing quirks. And the You Tube of that is below.

And if you prefer to watch it on Peacock, then your link is right here.

And when we get our first response video together, it will go below, and . . . here it is. Comments are open. As always, no vituperation.

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John McGlone
4 months ago

I admit I likely would have responded poorly to so much of what was implied by NBC. Thank you Doug for being a good model of a Christian man who holds steadfast in his faith. May God continue to bless you and your ministry.

Sewa
Sewa
4 months ago
Reply to  John McGlone

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Ben Bowman
4 months ago

Did they intentionally avoid the women of Christ church?

Panhandle Frank
Panhandle Frank
4 months ago
Reply to  Ben Bowman

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Armando
4 months ago

I thank God for your leadership and the church.

Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 months ago

those silver sneakers!

Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 months ago

They are attacking you all…they are dirty liars!

Clayvessel
Clayvessel
4 months ago

Risky, gutsy move letting NBC edit your words. They effectively sliced and diced, extracting just the key phrases they were looking for. I don’t think that qualifies as “even-handed”. But today’s mocking responses to their obvious tactics is perfection. Keep it up! Mock on!

Justin Parris
Justin Parris
4 months ago
Reply to  Clayvessel

If it was done with wisdom, it was done with the anticipation of that venom, and the wheels already in motion to use that public treachery against them.

Ray Paget
Ray Paget
4 months ago

Well done, brother Doug! You presented yourself and the Church of Jesus Christ in a good and affirming manner. Obviously non-believers and secularists are alarmed. You are obediently following Christ’s command to “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…” Imagine that, you radical!

Ree
Ree
4 months ago

I liked where, immediately after saying that Christ Church teaches that women can’t wear pants, they move into the clip of the Psalm sing with a bunch of women wearing pants.

Jane
Jane
4 months ago
Reply to  Ree

That really is the best part.

Jonty
Jonty
4 months ago
Reply to  Jane

Those were just the disobedient ones.

Phil Larson
Phil Larson
4 months ago

I expect they went as far as they could imagine to be “fair.” But when one is constrained by a philistine worldview, they just can’t get there. I’m so grateful for those who stand against rampant evil in the USA.

Jay
Jay
4 months ago

Well done sir! I’ve been continually impressed with your stalwart character in standing against the world’s madness. This is just another example of you and your flock living out Christ’s warnings that the world will hate us if we follow Him.

John
John
4 months ago

Lending a hand, yes – but also showing potential immigrants to Moscow that it’s not all wine and roses.

Martyn Chamberlin
4 months ago

The faces of your opposition say it all, Doug. To the extent that a man is defined by who his enemies are, your enemies are God’s enemies. Carry on the good fight of faith.

Shawn
Shawn
4 months ago

My favorite part was when they brought in the universalist unitarian to call Christ Church a cult. The cultiest of cults are suddenly experts on Christianity and the Bible. It was funny for sure.

Seth Hale
Seth Hale
4 months ago
Reply to  Shawn

That was hilarious, I literally laughed out loud at that part.

Barnard
Barnard
4 months ago
Reply to  Shawn

I enjoyed that part also. I assumed the reporter and editors at NBC are so ignorant of Christian doctrine that the impression being called a non Christian cult leader by a Unitarian would leave with Christian viewers was completely lost on them.

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Nathan James
Nathan James
4 months ago
Reply to  Shawn

I laughed out loud. Couldn’t they find some actual Christians to ask about Christ Church?

Barnard
Barnard
4 months ago
Reply to  Nathan James

They didn’t bother with that on their panel discussion either. Chuck Todd is not a Christian and the panelists all hold views on social issues that would put them line with the UCC.

Jane
Jane
4 months ago
Reply to  Shawn

Also, the people whose actual doctrine is “whatever” are now calling other people cultists. I don’t know what it’s like in Moscow, but around here the UU’s aren’t even pretending to be Christian anymore, they’re basically a social club that likes to play around with all sorts of religious trappings as long as they’re not recognizably evangelically Christian.

Nathan James
Nathan James
4 months ago
Reply to  Jane

Just shows you what Meet the Press considers to be the alternative to Christian Nationalism.

Shawn
Shawn
4 months ago
Reply to  Jane

I remember when I talked to a universalist “pastor” about whether or not she thinks Hitler is in heaven or hell? She told me “there is no hell”and I replied “since there’s no hell then how can you complain about any evil in the world. You must not believe in justice either” I bring that story up because I wonder what this NBC “pastor” would say if you switched Hitler for Wilson?

Kyle
Kyle
4 months ago
Reply to  Shawn

A female “pastor” no less

Donna
Donna
4 months ago

Those women pastors have no room to talk, they are not legitimate

Jonty
Jonty
4 months ago

Awesome stuff Dougy

Cherrera
Cherrera
4 months ago

All of this pearl clutching about an imaginary threat of Christian Nationalist taking over while the state uses alphabet agencies, activist judges and tax dollars to push woke religion via

  • LGBTQ+ mania in schools and the rest of society (including bakeries)
  • CRT
  • Arrests, subpoenas, confiscations of phones and personal items of political dissidents
  • Wide open borders
  • Classifying some of the most peaceful, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens as “domestic terrorists”
  • Treating criminals better than those defending themselves in rotting big cities (Illinois’ “purge law” is the latest example)
  • Moronic green energy policies
fitzhamilton
fitzhamilton
4 months ago

Now, exactly how does a Unitarian get off defining what a church is, which is to say who belongs to the Church, who is and is not a Christian? In ipsa item, catholica ecclesia curandum est, ut id teneamus quod ubique, quod semper, quod ab omnibus creditum est.. Now, as a Catholic I have a few doctrinal quibbles with you good Calvinist folks, but I think we all together affirm the Apostles and Nicene Creeds. I think we all commonly believe in the divinity of Christ incarnate, which is to say in the triune unity of One God in Three… Read more »

John
John
4 months ago

Editing really is magic. But the savagery of that “what, you mean like roe used to be?” *chef’s kiss*

Reminds me of that famous response sparta gave when told they would be razed if the enemy came to their door.

One word: *If*

Tyler Hochstetler
Tyler Hochstetler
4 months ago

Definitely a much more even handed interview than I would have expected from NBC. Looking forward to reviewing the shots they left out next.

And yes, how funny it is that they would choose two women who falsely claim the role of pastor and of non-Christian denominations. Not only that, but all the women wearing pants at the Psalm sing certainly rebut the claims made by that poor lost girl immediately after making them. (Not saying that Christ Church doesn’t insist on women dressing femininely, but the irony was quite evident).

Ben Smith
Ben Smith
4 months ago

The Peacock can fan his tail feathers and strut around foolishly gibbering all he wants. It won’t help him convince anyone except the peahens already mindlessly bobbing their heads along with his yodeling. NBC is only helping the Christian cause, acting this way. God bless.

Kyle
Kyle
4 months ago

Doug, can you further explain what you meant by “affection between master and slave”, or link me to an article you’ve written on the subject? When I recommend your material to people, that you gained notoriety as “supporting slavery” always derails the conversation and I don’t quite know how to sum up your position.

Andy
Andy
4 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Wilson

Fascinating! I didn’t know these accounts existed. Seems the PDF versions of all volumes are freely available online.
https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/about-this-collection/

Jim
Jim
4 months ago

When your interviewer stated later on the panel discussion that she just couldn’t imagine how any woman could embrace the teachings at Christ Kirk, I had to wonder why in all her searching around Moscow she couldn’t find a few who do, how it is they “manage” to do so. Once again the limitations of short form interviews reveal themselves.

Adad
Adad
4 months ago

“Malachi 4:2
But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves.”
Don’t worry Doug, bulls start out as calves as well! 😉 Amen . 🕊

Shawn
Shawn
4 months ago

It will be interesting to see how R. Scott Clark and The Reformed Brotherhood (or as I call them the unreformed sisterhood) respond to all of this.

Bible Supporter
Bible Supporter
4 months ago

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what you had said, Pastor Doug, even with NBC’s weird edits. It’s obvious there are some whining enemies in your town, but I’ll pray for you. You have brought so much hope! May God continue to bless you and may His gospel continue to be preached to all ends of the earth.

April

JL
JL
4 months ago

At about 16:30 Ann says that a lady pastor said she wanted people to know that there are folks like Pastor Wilson who “want to take America back to a more Christian culture,” and the lady pastor thinks that’s a bad thing. horrors.

I hate the anti-Christ.

Jaron Foo Ji Shan
Jaron Foo Ji Shan
3 months ago

Hi Doug, I was kinda puzzled when the part where the sex abuse cases happening in your church, you say that a lot of people don’t understand what pastors do. Could you pls elaborate on that? I did watch the part where you said that you don’t think it should be against the law for people who are convicted of these crimes to get married. I fully support your ministry, but this hits home to one of my family members who in the past married to a self-proclaimed Christian man that physically abused and raped her, worst of all the… Read more »