‘Murica Furioso

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Some of you may have noticed that I haven’t said much of anything political since Ted Cruz suspended his campaign, and this was because I didn’t want to give into the temptation to spit, or curse, or otherwise descend to personalities. Political discourse should be an activity that elevates while it engages, which is not the same thing as vituperating while it flames out.Angry Uncle Sam

Not really. I’ve been busy.

So here is where we are. Trump is vile and insufferable. Hillary is venal and insufferable. Bernie thinks that pigs could fly if we were only willing to give them $15 an hour. What to do? Well, I have voted third party a number of times in my wizened career as a longsuffering citizen — as one sage once said, if God had intended for us to vote, He would have given us candidates — and there is no reason I couldn’t do the same thing again.

But look around you for a minute. Think for a minute. As John Piper might say, were he here, don’t waste your third party yelp.

Usually a write-in or a third party vote is a cri de coeur — you wrote in Donald Duck, not because you think him eligible, but because you thought yourself conscience-bound to not go along with the current monkeyshines if you could help it.

But we are living in tempestuous times, are we not? A country in which Donald Trump could win the nomination of one of the major political parties is a country in which anything might happen, is it not? So let’s see if we can make this a little crazier.

Donald Trump is not really a political candidate. He is more like a wrecking ball. And as a persuasive kind of wrecking ball, his staying power has been consistently underestimated, including by yours truly. But there is a most reasonable explanation for this. Those who see through him see through him so clearly that it seems impossible to them that anybody else wouldn’t be able to see through him. If it looks in the moment as though they are not seeing through him, just give it a minute, right? In short, Trump’s appeal is a mystery to lots of reasonable people. That’s because reasonable people are the ones who have been wrecking the country, and when you get the backlash from the unreasonable, you don’t get to dictate what kind of unreasonable you are going to get.

So here’s the plan, boys. What we need to do is recruit some big money guys to fund a formidable third party challenge. This would promise all the exhilaration you could possibly wish for.

The immediate point of the third party challenge would not be to elect the third party candidate involved (although that would be a pleasant surprise). It is not likely, but if it were done right, the election could be thrown into the House of Representatives. And whatever happened there, it would be unlikely to be worse than Trump or Clinton in the White House. I leave out Sanders making it because he could surprise everybody by eliminating the deficit when he sold all our surplus unicorns to China. That would be sweet, and I would be the first one to admit that I had been wrong about his economic la-laism.

But the central point of an establishment-backed third party effort would be to bring in another couple of wrecking balls in order to finish off what is left of the Republican Party. This is the moment to do it. When party insiders like Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan are refusing to back the nominee, and outsiders like Cruz can simply point to Trump’s allegation that Cruz’s father was involved in JFK’s assassination (!!!!!), it would seem to me that the time is right. So how about it?

We have enough. No need to wait for the few remaining elements. The only things we are currently missing are an FBI report on Hillary recommending indictment, and a Martian landing in Ohio, which could skew the electoral process there. And remember that Ohio is a key battleground state. But no need to arm for war against the Martians — they would just be coming to take Kasich back home.

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Matt McClenahan
Matt McClenahan
8 years ago

Good morning Mr. Wilson!

Why not back the Libertarian Party? Why do all the leg work for another third party candidate?

Luke Pride
8 years ago

There stance on abortion, while it would defund planned parenthood, is still failing to protect the most important right government is meant to protect: life. It could be noted that this is an inconsistency in their theory. It is a conclusion drawn from a belief that the government has no right to tell a person what they can and can’t do to themselves if they are not infringing on another persons rights. There theory is, broadly, correct, but they need to see that science and reason show that the child is a separate person. Beyond that, there loose stance on… Read more »

John_Galt
John_Galt
8 years ago
Reply to  Luke Pride

Look up Austin Peterson for libertarian ticket. . He is prolife

Luke Pride
8 years ago
Reply to  John_Galt

so do the Libertarians have multiple candidates running? no primaries?

John_Galt
John_Galt
8 years ago
Reply to  Luke Pride

They are in their primaries just like ever other party, so yes muliltiple are running atm, Austin ia the only pro life one
http://austinpetersen2016.com/

Matt McClenahan
Matt McClenahan
8 years ago
Reply to  Luke Pride

They have straw polls leading up to the convention and make their final vote there. I second John on this one, Austin Petersen is well worth the look.

Christian Histo
Christian Histo
8 years ago
Reply to  John_Galt

Austin Peterson is the best one running but he is in third place and is unlikely to win.

Luke
Luke
8 years ago
Reply to  John_Galt

I’ve heard Peterson say that he is personally pro-life but does not support legislation on the matter. He would desire to dismantle many policies and funding streams that support prenatal infanticide, which is good, but he would stop short of any positive legal action protecting the unborn (at least that is how I understood him)

Ben
Ben
8 years ago
Reply to  Luke Pride

Many libertarians acknowledge that the non-aggression principle applies to unborn children and therefore are against abortion.

mamazee
mamazee
8 years ago
Reply to  Ben

and Ron Paul himself is pro life, and has said some very good things about abortion.

Lance Roberts
8 years ago

Gary Johnson not only completely supports abortion, but his “business” is the drug business. He’s in the business of killing people. To vote for him is to vote for death.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-gov-gary-johnson-named-ceo-of-marijuana-company/

Matt McClenahan
Matt McClenahan
8 years ago
Reply to  Lance Roberts

Thank you for you comments! If the Libertarian candidate were Austin Petersen Mr. Roberts, what say you? (Pro-Life Libertarian Candidate). I’m morally opposed to marijuana, but I just don’t know if we should be policing it as a nation.

Lance Roberts
8 years ago

I suppose I might think about that. I supported Ron Paul in 2012. As it sits now I think the Constitution party lines up pretty well with my beliefs. Note that I think there’s a big difference between not having the Feds involved and being involved in the business itself (which is as much of a sin as using the drug is).

Christian Histo
Christian Histo
8 years ago

I would totally vote for Petersen.

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago

But there is more to a party than its figurehead.

And, there is no such thing as “voting for the man, not the party”, for you *always* get the party along with the man.

Christian Histo
Christian Histo
8 years ago

The libertarian party sucks. Gary Johnson is probably going to win. He is not a libertarian, he is a liberal republican. He favors forcing Christian bakers to make wedding cakes for gay weddings and Jewish bakers to make cakes for Nazi’s (seriously…. google it). Further, he admits to regularly smoking weed and is pro abortion and actively pro gay marriage.

There are other candidates but they are not substantially better.

Matt McClenahan
Matt McClenahan
8 years ago

Any ideas on a viable third party candidate?

Christian Histo
Christian Histo
8 years ago

Not really. Constitution Party maybe? Not sure what states they are on the ballet. Maybe start a write in campaign for Rubio?

Matt McClenahan
Matt McClenahan
8 years ago

I like the idea of a write in campaign for Rubio.

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago

Rubio is no more a natural born US citizen than Cruz (or Obama) is.

If your goal is to restore Constitutional governance, you can’t get there by thumbing your nose at the Constitution.

Duells Quimby
Duells Quimby
8 years ago

I was thinking of writing in Cruz.

Christian Histo
Christian Histo
8 years ago
Reply to  Duells Quimby

Sure why not? We couldn’t unify during the primary, no way we will unify for a write in campaign.

Arwenb
Arwenb
8 years ago

Or the Constitution Party.

They’ve gotten big enough in Idaho to send out invitations to debates.

holmegm
holmegm
8 years ago

Stand on Christian principle by backing legal hookers?

More evidence that those itching to tie up Samson are not doing so because of any principles …

Joseph Hession
Joseph Hession
8 years ago

“Donald Trump is not really a political candidate. He is more like a wrecking ball.” What do you mean by this? He is running for president, winning, getting established politicians to back his campaign, etc… That sounds like a political candidate to me. “Those who see through him [Trump] see through him so clearly that it seems impossible to them that anybody else wouldn’t be able to see through him.” I am still truly perplexed as to why you see through Trump but don’t see through Cruz…although I guess that is moot now. “Trump’s appeal is a mystery to lots… Read more »

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Joseph Hession

think, “hes paid to say this” just like msm and it makes sense.

burnedpeas
burnedpeas
8 years ago

I don’t know any big money boys.

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  burnedpeas

Me neither, which does explain certain challenges in my life :)

ME
ME
8 years ago

“I didn’t want to give into the temptation to spit, or curse, or otherwise descend to personalities.”

Oh. I could have sworn that was the whole point of politics.

John_Galt
John_Galt
8 years ago

Pro life, limited government libertarian, his name is Austin Peterson. Libertarian party is still going through their primaries

http://austinpetersen2016.com/

ME
ME
8 years ago

“That’s because reasonable people are the ones who have been wrecking the country, and when you get the backlash from the unreasonable, you don’t get to dictate what kind of unreasonable you are going to get.” With all due respect, Trump really is the predictable, reasonable, logical manifestation of the alt right, of all those manospherians, of the God, Guns and Gays crowd. “Jesus Christ as John Wayne,” as one commentor put it. When people decide to just splay bullets in the general direction of the enemy, it isn’t pretty. Trump is the heart of the alt-right drug out into… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

Trump is the heart of the alt-right drug out into the sunlight

Not really, he’s just a vehicle for destroying globalist multiculturalist interests political power.

He has united working class Americans who want to preserve their nation from both political parties.

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

“He has united working class Americans who want to preserve their nation from both political parties.”

Where do you get your idealism and how come you’re not sharing? Is there some koolaid I could drink or something? I’m trying to remember a time when we did not have a candidate who has “united the working class and set forth to preserve the nation.” I can’t seem to go back far enough, “A chicken in every pot,” perhaps?

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

Hi Me. I can hear the whispering of God as the whirlwind passes by. (: I also read TheConservativeTreehouse.com ; the proprietor, Sundance, has some useful models with good predictive value . His exposition of the GOP “Splitter strategy” was spot-on during the primaries. His latest on the vote stats is heartening too. We are seeing Angelo Codevilla’s Ruling Class vs. Country Class political war playing out right now. Trump is the (stunningly coiffed) figurehead of the now powerful Country class. The figureheads of the Ruling Class are Hillary Clinton and whatever hairball lackey the cats of the GOPe hack… Read more »

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Thank you for those links, I shall read up.

Moor_the_Merrier
Moor_the_Merrier
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Thanks for the links Timothy. Greatly appreciated.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

I’m with you on not being fond of the globalists. But I have very little doubt that Trump will be a globalist when it suits his financial interests and an anti-globalist when it protects his financial interests. But if Trump united the working class, then why did he perform so poorly in the West and why is he hated so much by Democrats and non-White people of all political parties? I’m not going to say by any means that the only good candidate has to be supported by a majority of Democrats or by a majority of non-White people or… Read more »

JohnM
JohnM
8 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan

“…that lends me to believe that the working class isn’t very united at all.” Thank you.

For anybody reading who cares to answer – What is working class anyway? I know what it is supposed to mean, but for the people who have been using the term and, I guess, claiming to be part of it, and who believe that Trump represents it’s interests, what do *you* mean? How do you define “working class”? Serious question.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Minor follow-up: Just saw a statistic today that showed that 42% of the American working class in the 25-54 age bracket is non-White.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Source?
Do they count illegal immigrants as American working class?

thx.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I stopped reading when the author switched from “Working class” to “Labor force” with a link to the Center for American Progress.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/labor/report/2012/07/12/11938/the-state-of-diversity-in-todays-workforce/

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

That’s the wrong link. The very sentence you got it from distinguishes “working class” and “labor force” as two different things, and quotes statistics for their respective composition from two different organizations. The statistic I quoted regarding “working class” is from an entirely different organization than the one you just linked.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

You made me think of Huey P. Long.

mkt
mkt
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

Isn’t this like the 393th time you’ve played this guilt-by-association game? And you’ve still never proved your assertions about Dalrock.

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  mkt

Dalrock is the one who has proven my assertions about Dalrock. What I would really like is for Dalrock to disprove his own assertations and stop rallying men around bitterness and hatred but rather around Christ.

mkt
mkt
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

Again, you’ve made all sorts of wild accusations and never provided links or quotes from him. Ever heard of the 9th Commandment? What I’d really like is for you to prove your assertions or stop making them. And stop trying to rally commenters here around your own bitterness, hatred and lies, but around Christ instead.

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  mkt

Why would I provide links? You all know how to find Dalrock, you all read his words. The fact that some cannot discern what is obvious and right before them is what I find so interesting. It is not unlike the seduction of Trump, the lure of a man who tickles your ears and hits your erogenous zones.

mkt
mkt
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

So again, you provide no evidence, but get all sexual this time. Too much time on PUA sites?

I’ll take this as you simply admitting that you’re a liar, plan and simple. I’ve called you out on specific comments/accusations and you had no response. It’s kind of like that post of yours where you admit beating your own husband with a baseball bat. There’s no need for me to provide a link. I’ll just talk about discernment, Trump, the manosphere and all that. Who needs proof when you can throw around buzzwords and excel in guilt-by-association?

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  mkt

Who needs denial when you can just demand endless links and shriek hysterically about how everyone is a liar?

And yet Trump is real enough as is the manospherian support of him.

mkt
mkt
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

Again, missy, you’re the one shrieking hysterically about Trump!, the manosphere!, Dalrock!, the horror! And making endless accusations without a shred of proof. If someone wanted to stereotype female thinking as all emotion with no logic or evidence, you’re the paragon.

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  mkt

I’m actually not the one shrieking, nor am I horrified, nor am I emotional about it. Resigned and apathetic is more like it.

Arwenb
Arwenb
8 years ago
Reply to  mkt

I’m pretty sure she’s been banned from his site.

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago
Reply to  ME

And you are a female in sinful revolt against God-ordained male leadership. So, *everything* you say is filtered through that revolt, and is in support of that revolt.

ME
ME
8 years ago
Reply to  Ilion

LOL! Be ye stoopid? I am actually quite charmed by male leadership, it’s the leadership of complete morons that gives me pause. So 30 years with a husband, church, Jesus Christ Himself, the blessings of male leadership all around me, and then you lunkheads come along and accuse me of being in revolt.

You seem to be confusing revolt with revolting, as in the garbage some of you are spewing is downright revolting and has a lot more to do with broken men than male leadership.

Sam
Sam
8 years ago

At
the most critical moment of the third part discussion, we have a
glaring problem (though, yes, I think that is the way to go): How on
earth do you get the disenfranchised republicans to unite behind just
one? There’s actually a few out there and I see several people going,
“No, not THAT guy, THIS guy!” The danger now that the vase has fallen to
the floor is that we’ll just end up stepping all over the pieces and
fragmenting even more. I predict what comes next will be more emotional
than rational.

Jon Swerens
8 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Very good point. But first, we need to (unfortunately) wait to see who might step up to the plate in the next month or so. I’m far from convinced that the LP’s Austin Petersen would be a wise choice.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Jon Swerens

Your tweet to that fat guy from Flint was awesome. Well done.

Jon Swerens
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Hey thanks

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Jon Swerens

It was a model of Christian witness. You where in the fight, on the front lines defending the Faith and the faithful against a hero of the enemy.

A million or two more men like you and this battle will be won.

katecho
katecho
8 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Sam wrote:

I predict what comes next will be more emotional than rational.

Well said. As undisciplined as we can be in the area of unity, I think there is also a problem of drummed up emotional unity around yet another false hope for a political messiah. Obama should have taught America the final lesson about such hopey, changey promises to an unrepentant culture.

Perhaps Trump will provide a bonus lesson on how America’s deepest problems will not be solved by politicians.

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago

Nah. I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Donald. I prefer chaotic evil over evil straight up and it’s going to be one or the other.

PaddyOConner
PaddyOConner
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

This actually has merit to it. Chaotic and self-centered evil seems less dangerous than “good intentions” evil. However the best I’ll be able to do is root for Trump not vote for him.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

whats the evil in trump?

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

It’s not that he’s stupid. He’s not stupid. It’s not that he’s crass and vulgar. He is crass and vulgar but we’re used to that. It’s that he’s an amazingly talented persuader who can hypnotize the knickers off the body politic. That by itself wouldn’t be a problem if he was a constitutionalist but he has no more love for that document than President Obama does. In Mr. Trump’s favor, he doesn’t actually hate the Constitution. He wouldn’t have any trouble trampling it when he found it convenient but he wouldn’t go out of his way to stomp on it.… Read more »

Bob French
Bob French
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

Substitute the word “Bible” for “Constitution”. Eh?

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Bob French

That works, though I would prefer a president who got the Constitution right and the Bible wrong over the reverse.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

:(

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

what? got any support for this commentary? Name a politician that cares for our constitution? anyway. ‘Stupid?’ no he’s too intelligent for the job/and that’s ‘evil’? ‘persuader’ ? that’s evil ?(he doesn’t do it for me unless he builds a wall/re negotiates trade/brings jobs/and has infinitely more understanding of men’s issues-esp. divorce than the last two homosexuals or a woman in the office) He has vowed to appoint a constitutionalist for scotus. He went after Obama who registered his birth in HI and prob. was born in Kenya….,see even cares for a ‘minor’ part of the constitution that republicans themselves… Read more »

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

You’re saying Trump is less evil than others and therefore not evil?

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

i am asking what specific evil did he do that would keep someone for voting for him?

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

He is a bad man but I don’t really mind that. What I hate about him is that he’s not a conservative. That’s the real evil. I’ll vote for him, probably, if things go the way they appear to be going but I won’t like it.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

yeah, dont got anything either i see.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

how can you say hes bad without an example, “raca” hey? hell fire for u #anotherfaker

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

He calls people ugly names.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

oh brother, I could site dozens of things. on almost any politician that are serious?i dont recall any names during his presidential camp. but whatever he called rosie is prob light compared with what she demonstrably is. Jesus called ppl snakes, tombs, dogs… etc. may not be the best choice but its how ppl relay their displeasure, politics today. is soft bet even your heros from our pastwould shock you!

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

… but he has no more love for that document than President Obama does.

Or than the non natural born US citizen, Cruz, does.

In Mr. Trump’s favor, he doesn’t actually hate the Constitution. He wouldn’t have any trouble trampling it when he found it convenient but he wouldn’t go out of his way to stomp on it.

I agree. Yet, the same cannot be said for Cruz, for he *knows* that the Constitution forbids him the presidency.

Eagle_Eyed
Eagle_Eyed
8 years ago

The whole “Trump is a clown, how could any reasonable person vote for him” act may have worked before he won New Hampshire, it should have disappeared by Super Tuesday, but it certainly doesn’t make any sense now that he has the nomination all but wrapped up. If you find yourself in the minority of people in your party who doesn’t support its nominee–it may be time to reexamine your own assumptions about politics and if you aren’t being the unreasonable one.

JohnM
JohnM
8 years ago
Reply to  Eagle_Eyed

No, it’s just time to walk away from the GOP clown parade and find a better formation to march with.

mkt
mkt
8 years ago
Reply to  JohnM

“No, it’s just time to walk away from the GOP clown parade…”

This is what I don’t get. It’s been time for that for over 20 years. Bob Dole, John McCain, Romney, et. al. were more repugnant to me than Trump.

JohnM
JohnM
8 years ago
Reply to  mkt

They were all no better than unappealing alternatives to a worse alternative at the time, but calling those men more repugnant than Trump is just entering another float in the parade.

Dunsworth
Dunsworth
8 years ago
Reply to  Eagle_Eyed

The majority of the party never supported Trump until the last few primaries, so I don’t know quite what you mean.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Dunsworth

The majority of the party never supported Romney nor Bush nor Dole….(splitter strategy at work, btw) yet the calls for unity and shaming where made when team Neocon lead the ticket. Now that team Nationalist leads the ticket the neocon “principles” of unity and party vaporize.

Trump has ripped the mask of the GOP.

mkt
mkt
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Exactly. Most of DW’s post on the election and all of the comments are summed up in your two short paragraphs. Of course, the “NeverTrump” crowd remains in denial. When I mentioned how bad of a candidate John McCain was, they even came to his defense. Never mind his flip-flopping on abortion, early pro-gay marriage stance, calling the religious right “agents of intolerance,” etc.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Eagle_Eyed

some of the little paid-trolls dont rate an updated script I guess

Edmund Warwick
Edmund Warwick
8 years ago

I think Doug Wilson, and probably myself too, forgets what a small, politically insignificant group we are. We literally don’t matter. What we say and think doesn’t matter.

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Edmund Warwick

Heck, we’re not even a group if these comments are anything to go by.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago

it is a lie to say trump said cruz had something to do with jfk assasination.

Joseph Hession
Joseph Hession
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

Yes, that’s correct! Trump said no such thing. He noted that his father was pictured with Oswald handing out his propaganda, which is true.

Cruz has so many skeletons in the closet, including marital infidelity, I find it amusing that the primary difference between Trump and Cruz in regards to character is not the character of the men at all, but rather, that one of them is honest about who he is and the other is not.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Joseph Hession

Hey; love him or no; he’s been attacked like this for the whole campaign; I don’t surprise on Wilsons parroting lies he’s just another shill ‘christian’ but, c’mon thinking ppl at least; I mean, you see elder cruz with oswald -that’s remarkable. If you don’t know the story it’s like ‘oh he shot jfk’ that’s not even the first thing I thought of; but most retards don’t even allow un-Fox-filtered ideas in their heads so they don’t know that the charismaniacal-apocalyptic-hispanic-storefront-flag-waving-zionist was fighting with Castro; whom Oswald was seeking or set up to be, seen with his(Castro’s) communist tovarich; given… Read more »

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago
Reply to  Joseph Hession

Yes, that’s correct! Trump said no such thing. He noted that his father was pictured with Oswald handing out his propaganda, which is true.

And this statement or claim by Trump is a very different thing from the pro-Cruz assertions (made both by Cruz and his shills) about what Trump said. And until just now, the pro-Cruz assertions about what Trump said are all I, and likely most others, have heard.

Goodness! The more one learns about Cruz, the more one realizes just how sleazy he is.

Andy
Andy
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

Just like it is a lie to say Mary Swanson said Lloyd Christmas had zero chance of ending up with her.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy

true est. logic; talmudists unite!

"A" dad
"A" dad
8 years ago

Why can’t we just make the Miley Cyrus song “Wrecking Ball” the Donald’s campaign song?! ????????

RFB
RFB
8 years ago
Reply to  "A" dad

I have regularly enjoyed this quote by Lewis:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

"A" dad
"A" dad
8 years ago
Reply to  RFB

Or, as the prophet Scooby doo said:

“Ruh-roh!” ????

Especially as applied to do gooders!

Matt
Matt
8 years ago

That something like Trump was on the way should have been apparent ever since Sarah Palin. Trump is exactly what the right wing wants: someone who will say what he means and who makes the “right people” mad. That he has no policy substance is irrelevant. The right wing doesn’t care about or need policy substance. Again, Palin was the canary in the coal mine there, to reuse that wonderful metaphor. The working class in particular has seen decades of downward mobility, and been told by the conservatives that it’s all due to the blacks, the Mexicans, the feminists, the… Read more »

av
av
8 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Have you read his foreign policy speech? I don’t see how you can argue that it lacks substance. Similarly the other positions people actually care about, immigration and border security, also have substantive positions he’s arguing for.

It’s curious how many people ignore the substance because they seem to not want it to actually be popular, but it’s there none the less.

Matt
Matt
8 years ago
Reply to  av

He had to start feigning interest in policy at some point, assuming he actually wants to win the election. He can’t win off his primary base alone, after all. But Trump’s rise happened before he elucidated any detailed policy positions other than “build a wall” and “renegotiate trade deals”. It isn’t what got him the nomination, in other words.

ashv
ashv
8 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Go back and listen to Trump’s opinions on foreign policy in the 80s and 90s. He’s not new to these ideas, exactly.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Matt

That he has no policy substance is irrelevant. The divide is politics is between the globalists (of all parties) and the Nationalists. Trump is the first voice of the Nationalists. There will be more. The GOP are led by globalists. The Nationalists have been exiled since Bush 1 purged them all after Reagan. Your dems are globalist too. Your endgame can be seen in Europe where your leaders are forcibly importing jihdadi savages in order to destroy Western Civilization (i.e. Christendom). As for the death of the white working class in America, there will be a civil war before you… Read more »

JohnM
JohnM
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Western Civilization (i.e. Christendom)?! On Christ the solid rock I stand, western civilization is sinking sand.

40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
8 years ago
Reply to  JohnM

Anti-semite.

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Matt

Speaking as a right winger I must say your comments are turgid with excrement. It is true that we enjoy watching lefties work themselves into a lather but Mr. T is far from what we want. His support comes from elsewhere.

Matt
Matt
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

Where do you think it comes from?

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago
Reply to  Matt
Capndweeb
Capndweeb
8 years ago
Reply to  Rob Steele

Three bonus points for use of the phrase “turgid with excrement.” Please feel free to use “tauro-scatological” at your convenience.

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago
Reply to  Matt

spoken like a true leftist

Capndweeb
Capndweeb
8 years ago

Okay, this may get long, so I shall apologize in advance if it seems like I am plowing 40 acres with a Kardashian. As many of you know, I am from Minnesota. As I have said before, Trump has many qualities in common with former Governor Jesse Ventura. More importantly, his campaign is much like Ventura’s and I believe he is appealing to a similar demographic. I speak not just as a Minnesota resident standing on the sidelines during this era. I was a reporter for a small town newspaper at the time. (Shocking but true.) When Ventura ran for… Read more »

katecho
katecho
8 years ago
Reply to  Capndweeb

The reference to a shower of little bits of marshmallow may be very telling. Capndweeb appears to be saying that, of all the candidates, Trump most accurately represents the state of America now, and we deserve him.

Capndweeb
Capndweeb
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

Ding! We are poised to not only ask for judgment upon ourselves, but to actively campaign for it and vote it upon ourselves.

ashv
ashv
8 years ago
Reply to  Capndweeb

The problem is that Trump isn’t Nice. And for some, Niceness is an idol.

Capndweeb
Capndweeb
8 years ago
Reply to  ashv

Ventura wasn’t nice either. Agreed. Idolatry takes many forms.

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago
Reply to  ashv

… and, after all, wasn’t the whole point of God-Is-With-Us to teach us how to be nice?

RFB
RFB
8 years ago
Reply to  Capndweeb

“…I am plowing 40 acres with a Kardashian…”

Wins the internet today!!!

Capndweeb
Capndweeb
8 years ago
Reply to  RFB

Thang you, thang you very mush.

Steve H
Steve H
8 years ago
Reply to  Capndweeb

As opposed to the Sta-puff dude from???

B Martin
B Martin
8 years ago

If any of you are in California, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, and John Kasich are still on the ballot. Delegates are awarded by congressional district here, so if there is any hope of a contested convention, there is still the potential to keep more delegates away from Trump on June 7th.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  B Martin

Yes, but it would have been tough with those guys competing hard, and absolutely impossible now that they’ve given up.

Ben
Ben
8 years ago

Question…Why would the establishment back a third party effort to destroy the Republican Party? The establishment IS the Republican Party. Also, Cruz is not an outsider. He was portrayed as such by the gay media in order to lump him and Trump together in an effort to dull Trump’s impact. Ted is a puppet to tax-evading monied elites, big banks, and the military industrial complex. And of course, the MOST IMPORTANT THING: Ted Cruz, like all the other losing candidates, is a beta male. Betas must not be given the type of power which he sought, for they are insecure… Read more »

"A" dad
"A" dad
8 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Ben, it sounds like you are overreacting! ; – )

Ben
Ben
8 years ago
Reply to  "A" dad

Nah, just stating facts. Plus, am I to concede that Doug is an alpha and is prodding? That seems a stretch.

RandMan
RandMan
8 years ago
Reply to  Ben

The gay media. idiotic.

Ben
Ben
8 years ago
Reply to  RandMan

I was just saying they were happy. You know, like “happy medium” but plural.

Also, they are homosexuals.

John Killmaster
John Killmaster
8 years ago

Did it occur to you that unleashing the Trump wrecking ball on Washington would be the most exhilarating thing we could do?

40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
8 years ago

Doug (and other CruzCrew members), it’s not too late to get your official Cruz/Fiorina 2016 campaign poster, showing Gnarly Carly as Rosie the Riveter.

The slogan is She Can Do It!

I hear they wanted a longer slogan but Carly’s Gonna Put Trannies in Your Daughter’s Restroom Like She Did 20 Years Ago at HP Even Though Ted ABSOLUTELY SWEARS He Hates Trannies in Your Daughter’s Restroom! wouldn’t fit.

And they’re only 25 bux.

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screen-Shot-2016-05-04-at-12.15.39-AM.png

Wesley Sims
Wesley Sims
8 years ago

LOOK AT THAT FACE

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago

wouldn’t it be funny someone bring Wilson up on charges for lying about Trumps words re the elder cruz? Anybody dout establishment politics begin at home? but we all play by the same rules, lol

Andy
Andy
8 years ago

I’ll say this – I cannot, for the life of me, put my finger on what changed. Any ideas? Trump goes from winning pluralities only, and then NY. From then on it’s nothing but majorities. I fully expected his numbers to stay in the mid to high thirties. I totally missed this. 3 weeks ago I would have said he’d lose all 50 states to Clinton (yes, even Utah & Alabama). Now? I’m keeping my mouth shut. God help us!

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy

Preference cascade.

Kevin Hadley
Kevin Hadley
8 years ago

Oh, come on!! Just vote for Trump already. Quit belly-aching. I love you, Doug Wilson and read almost everything you write, but you really are an ignoramus on this whole politics thing. I think four years ago you were sure Romney was going to win so you invited everyone not to vote. Something like that.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  Kevin Hadley

He predicted that McCain was certain to win all the way up to the day of that election as well.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago

I don’t know if the massive energy required would be worth the limited possible fruit. That being said, Pastor Wilson, I think this is the best political idea I’ve ever seen you come up with. In a world of bad options, the people who want a good option need to do something like this. Only problem…it involves recruiting people with big money, and the vast majority of people with big money have spent a significant portion of their life’s energy either working to get more money or working to protect their money. So having such people be a big part… Read more »

Groucho Fer
Groucho Fer
8 years ago

It is my understanding that after Judas Iscariot left, the twelfth disciple (St Matthias….buried in Trier, Germany) was elected by the eleven. Am I wrong?…..and by the way, I chuckle at the suggestion of Gog Magog…..I walk regularly in the Gog Magog Hills (just outside Cambridge, UK). Where did the philanderer Bill Clinton study?

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago

you lie Trump did not say your lying leaders dad had to do with jfk!

Ilion
Ilion
8 years ago

So here is where we are. Trump is vile and insufferable. Hillary is venal and insufferable. Bernie thinks that pigs could fly if we were only willing to give them $15 an hour.

And Cruz is not a natural born US citizen. And he knows that the Constitution forbids the presidency to him. And yet, still he sought it. How is that not *worse* than “vile and insufferable”?

andrewlohr
andrewlohr
8 years ago

If no one wins the electorals, The House has to pick from the top 3 electoral vote-getters. (That cooked Henry Clay’s goose in A.D. 1824; he might’ve won the House, but he was 4th). If the House fails to elect anyone, then the Veep acts as President–I suppose he becomes President, as Veeps since Tyler have done–and the Senate picks a new Veep from the top two Veep vote-getters (Amendment 12, as I read it).

40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
8 years ago

And Russell Moore wept.

Glenn Beck now says President Trump will be the next President of the United States.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/05/11/glenn-makes-wild-prediction-about-trump

If the biggest con artist in America can do a complete 180 in a week, you know a whole bunch of other cucks can’t be far behind.

And, sure enough, here comes Ben Shapiro saying, “You know what? Just forget all that #NeverTrump nonsense I spouted for weeks – I can see myself voting for the guy.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435235/donald-trump-conservative-voters

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago

And now Sheldon “I may be liberal on social issues but what I really care about is whether my casinos can keep me rich” Adelson is talking about funneling $100 million to Trump for the general election.

40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
8 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan

See, jilly? Not all Jews are bad!

jillybean
jillybean
8 years ago

Oh be quiet.

Do you believe the people who say that Hillary and Bill toss anti-Semitic slurs around like confetti? If so, do you think that is based on prejudice or on their not being very mannerly?

40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
8 years ago
Reply to  jillybean

Well, I don’t think Bill’s all that anti-semitic. IIRC, he and Monica Lewinsky were quite close.

So I blame Hillary. There are lots of people who say that in private, she’s a very nasty piece of work.

I think she pretty much hates everbody.

(Except Huma Abedin. I hear they’re quite close.)

jillybean
jillybean
8 years ago

I read that Huma is not a nice lady. I’ve heard that Hillary screams at staff. If there was cardinal rule I was brought up with, it’s that you must not be rude to people who are not allowed to be rude back. The fact that Bill liked Monica doesn’t mean much. I mean she was female and breathing.

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago

3rd party? maybe we need a 3rd reformation….

Malachi
Malachi
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug Wright

Or a 3rd American War for Independence?

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 years ago
Reply to  Malachi

3rd Inquisition, perhaps?

Doug Wright
Doug Wright
8 years ago
Reply to  Malachi

naw; that took men. From what I see they ain’t coming back with out a reformation.

40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
40 ACRES & A KARDASHIAN
8 years ago

No honor among cucks. Top neocon author @BradThor steals other people’s tweets and passes them off as his own.

https://twitter.com/BobFromThere/status/731347674969047040