Sorry you have to click through to get to the trailer, but life sometimes has difficulties that attend us on the way. I would fix it if I could, but we were not put into this world for pleasure alone. At any rate, here it is:
Have 'Em Delivered
Write to the Editor
Well this looks interesting.
Wow! If this trailer is any indication of the final product, you’ve got something very special.
That might involve too much thinking. More like too busy posting pictures of their lunch to instagram and upvoting memes.
See, though. We must be careful there. The media would like you to believe that the 30 and below group is full of techie know-it-alls and bums…but do you trust the media? I’m not denying that there is definitely a HUGE problem with my generation (problem being that we believe what the FORMER generations had shoved down our throats about God not being real, etc.) But even in my church there’s a man who, almost every time, says something negative about the “younger” generation. “They don’t partake in memorial day….” etc. We can’t just divide the generations that easily. If… Read more »
I know what blog post I am referring the “Doug Wilson Supports Slavery” commenter.
Dear uniformed commenter; read this: https://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/stonewall-trailer-round-two.html and get back to us. Then we can talk
You mentioned 600,000 as the death toll from the War Between the States. I know it’s the NY Times, but apparently 750,000 seems to be the current acceptable number due to recent findings:
http://tinyurl.com/ornfbq3
It sure furthers your point – that’s an increase almost the current size of Salt Lake City.
150 or so…just bodies, who’s counting? Secular gatekeepers who fudge numbers it seems
Solution: Secession!
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/08/no_author/secession-the-reasonable-option-everyone-resists-tom-woods/
Ryan — isn’t that at best a stop-gap measure?
The group with which you secede will soon need seceding from.
Until it’s just you and me.
And I’m having second thoughts about you.
Even more about myself.
Radical secession (libertarian autonomy/anarchy) is the other ditch, but the pattern in Scripture is multiple representational levels, and hierarchies and spheres of rule and subordination. These (should) interact for our overall protection from abuse of authority.
The idea of the lesser magistrate is something we need to recapture. It’s actually the legitimate basis for secession, not an appeal to individualism.
The Constitution doesn’t regard it as unprofitable but rather a right.
We can’t worry about what’s down the road so much as doing the wisest thing or knowing if there’s a cause now for a better tomorrow.
Not sure there are enough to secede or to unite on a cause or reason to secede at this point. Or maybe the left would be glad to just let the few go, but knowing the ego and the revenge…I’m not so sure.
Thinking longingly of franklinb23’s map :)
It was a mistake for the Virginians to get into bed with Massachusetts in the first place — and they fully realized this a bit too late.
Did you know about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNXkJMXPBGc
Okay. I just searched for “boycott stonewall” and all kinds of stuff popped up about the movie’s “whitewashing”. Can someone explain to me very simply what their complaint is about the movie? No article that I found seemed to be thorough. Edit: Okay, I’ve got it. “The film has been criticised for its lack of representation of minorities prominently involved the historical event, in particular people of color, drag queens and trans women.[8][9][10][11][12] The five top billed actors in the film are all white” Strange. So maybe since I’m new here, I don’t quite understand what Wilson’s Stonewall trailers are… Read more »
That confusion was bound to happen–“Stonewall” means the Stonewall riots and “gay liberation” or something to the left. DW is provoking them on purpose.
I havent been following Pastor Wilson very long. The trailer is certainly thought-provoking and interesting. Picks up on a lot of themes about Lincoln and the War Between the States that have… festered?… in my mind for the past few years. But I feel completely out of the loop regarding what this trailer is. Is it related to the upcoming big release film? Is Pastor Wilson making his own Stonewall documentary? I’m confused and would appreciate being brought up to speed, even if only by a link to a more explanatory post. Great teaser trailer though, but for what exactly?
If you want to get some background on Doug’s views I’d recommend going to the search bar in the upper right corner of this page and looking for ‘Thabiti’. Thabiti Anyabwile and Doug had a very cordial back-n-forth over slavery, race issues, and stuff like that. It’s probably 10-15 posts and responses so it’s a fair amount of reading.
I believe it’s an upcoming documentary, similar to the film Collision that was released a few years ago about Wilson and Christopher Hitchens’s debates.
In response to Wilson’s point in the video, it’s pretty easy to argue the reason why the other nations of western civilization eliminated slavery without violence was due to the fact that their national governments were actually larger than America’s national government at the time of Lincoln. His argument for a weak central government can be turned against himself when bringing up the American Civil War.
And even easier to argue that the huge centralized national government we have now is why we see the legal murder of over 2800 babies every day here in the U.S.
I’m very excited for this film. And also curious – who is the interviewer?
A shill, but does a fun job pretending to antagonize.
Best supporting actor.
He adds a great layer we need to see more of, rather than the buttuski-kissing style so prevalent.
Agreed – softball questions are annoying. Though I worry it’s a bit too obvious a caricature? Straw-manning doesn’t help much more than softball.
The interviewer is the filmmaker, Darren Doane.
Doug — if we paid you enough, would you give up your day job and do this type stuff full time?
Doug (and others), what books do you recommend to get informed about this sort of thing? The history section of most stores is overwhelming and I don’t want to pick up something misleading or neutral or whatever
Try Doug Wilson’s book, Black & Tan.
I’d recommend McPherson’s Battle Cry of Freedom, followed by Shelby Foote’s trilogy on the Civil War.
what is the projected release date
Was the Civil War fought, on the part of one side, to eliminate slavery, and on the part of the other side, to sustain slavery, after all? Of course, as some of you may have figured out, my answer would be No and Yes. You can always elaborate from there, but that is the short answer. My point is that those who criticize Lincoln for a bloody approach to eliminating slavery while maintaining the war was not over slavery cannot have it both ways.
The war can never be summarized so simply, which is probably why 50,000 books have been written about it. There were MANY things going on around the same time that caused friction between the Northern States and the Southern States–Liberal theology v. Reformational theology, Industrial v. Agricultural, Nationalism v. Federalism, etc. But the issue of slavery–freemen v. slaves–was not exactly one of them. True, many northerners had begun to free their slaves by the 1860s, but no…not all of them. Not every Northern State was slave-free, and so it is telling (and damning) that Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation DID NOT free… Read more »
Exceptionally well stated. Thanks Malachi.
The thing is, I keep seeing this reference to Lincoln’s 600’000 corpses producing way of ending slavery as if seeking a way to end slavery had been his reason for war after all. That from people who should and do know better. Of course Lincoln was not aiming at any of the other eventual consequences of the war either, nor were the secessionists aiming to prevent any results save emancipation of their slaves. Ironic.
Lincoln’s bloody approach was primarily for the purpose of preserving the Union through a centrist application of force. So it would be possible to “have it both ways” if someone maintained that the war was not over slavery, and criticized Lincoln for his bloody approach to keeping the Union.
I agree with Malachi though, that the slavery issue was mixed up in the conflict on some level, and can’t be left out of motivations altogether, even though it was not the central bloodspilling issue for either side.
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