Last Letters of a Bedraggled Year

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Cognitive Dissonance

I was wondering if you are familiar with cognitive dissonance theory. I had heard of it, and just recently heard an argument that the New Testament writers followed all the same predictable lines of reducing dissonance after the death of Christ, as other doomsday and apocalyptic cults. The conclusion being that they reinterpreted and spiritualized all of the Old Testament messianic prophecies, and put all of the more concrete aspects of Jewish eschatology into the future, and therefore made them unfalsifiable. It seems to me there are a few key aspects being overlooked here, but just wondering your thoughts, or if you had any book recommendations. Thanks for all you do!

Nick

Nick, this is just an example of what C.S. Lewis called Bulverism. If you skip over the part where you show that your adversary is wrong, and proceed straight to the part where you explain how he got so silly, you need never engage with an argument again. The problem is that both sides can play this game. Just imagine the cognitive dissonance when the Sanhedrin johnnies were told by the guards that Jesus rose from the dead.

More Christmas Doggerel, the Good Kind

I read your Christmas poem, and then happened to read a not-so-wonderful modern rendering of God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen. How do we get more of yours and less of theirs?

BK

BK, I would suggest paying me more.

Calvinist Debate?

It seems that as Calvinism grows its influence, there continue to be rising opponents to it. Would you be willing to take on Leighton Flowers in a debate? Can you speak to the “provisionist” view? I’m tired of seeing Leighton talk about James White over and over and would love to hear you take him on.

Zach

Zach, I am willing for a debate like that in principle.

Not sure whether you had already seen this. Could this (“Siberian Unicorn”) be the behemoth of Job?

Daniel

Daniel, I don’t think the behemoth. But perhaps the unicorn of Job.

Quite the Dilemma

I enjoy your content. I am on the Vestry of an Anglican Church in El Paso, Tx. We have become ground zero of sorts for immigration, what I thought was the illegal kind.

In any event, there’s a big push to help the “migrants “ and I am having a struggle. What we are seeing is clearly wrong on many levels.

I have been praying and I must admit, I am stumped. I will pray and pray harder, but seeking some guidance. What is an appropriate biblical worldview on the current immigration situation here in the United States?

Joshua

Joshua, the problem is not the immigration, but rather the out-of-controlness involved. I would stay away from any subsidizing of the current chaos.

Thanks for reading, reflecting, and responding re: a Christian nationalist program for immigration. You said

“I think you are starting at the wrong end. I would start with cutting welfare benefits, free schooling, anchor babies, and so on.”

The end of welfare (of which I take free schooling to be a variety) is definitely one of the holy grails of Christian Nationalism, IMO. I will drop to my knees, sing the Gloria Patri, then get up and dance a jig when that day comes.

The quibble I have with stopping anchor babies is that, to my understanding, they are only a problem as long as welfare exists. So if I were starting from your “right end” I’d not even bother addressing them.

I view this issue as you view abortion. I’m a smash mouth incrementalist. I’d sign an end welfare bill if it were put on my desk, but I wouldn’t refuse to sign those other measures I imagined, if they were put on my desk before the welfare bill arrived.

Where does my sense of political pragmatism come from? Probably from the fact that conservatives, Christians even, are fully addicted to social security. So, I might be able to sell them today on the idea of taking in poor immigrants in exchange for a tax break, but I fear that they won’t be broken of the Rooseveltian drug until, as Gary North used to say, “the checks start to bounce”.

I was intrigued to learn recently that, for counterintuitive reasons (God drawing straight with crooked lines?) increased immigration actually does not tend to expand the welfare state . . . see here

What do you think of the idea of welcoming poor immigrants on very easy terms, but only naturalizing them, not giving them the franchise? I realize that’s politically a non-starter given what our political culture has become, but I’m interested to hear what you believe about the idea of a civic franchise in general.

Be merry,

Judd

Judd, as you noted, anything sensible here is going to be a non-starter. The problem with raw democracy is that you wind up with, as the fellow said, three coyotes and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch. But of course, oligarchies and aristocracies have their corruptions too. Perhaps we could have a universal franchise for the House of Representatives, and a property requirement for other elections. Just a random thought.

Eschatonny Stuff

Question concerning the Last Days according to Scripture. For a few years I held, as many Reformed Christians do, that the last days are the time period describing Christ’ first to second advent. About two or three years ago I began familiarizing myself more and more with what I believe is to be your position (correct me if I’m wrong), and the position of others such as Jordan, Leithart, DeMar, Chilton, Kayser, etc. which is that the last days were the time period between Christ’s death, resurrection, and ascension to the coming destruction of Jerusalem and the temple at 70AD, i.e., the last days of the old covenant economy. It seems to me that this is the more natural reading when allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture. Nevertheless, when I read mostly the messianic passages throughout the old covenant that allude to the last days (or latter times), it seems at times to better fit the first description of the last days. Here’s an example (glorious postmill passage):

Now it will come about that

In the last days

The mountain of the house of the Lord

Will be established [a]as the chief of the mountains,

And will be raised above the hills;

And all the nations will stream to it.

And many peoples will come and say,

“Come, let’s go up to the mountain of the Lord,

To the house of the God of Jacob;

So that He may teach us [b]about His ways,

And that we may walk in His paths.”

For the law will go out from Zion

And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

And He will judge between the nations,

And will mediate for many peoples;

And they will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning knives.

Nation will not lift up a sword against nation,

And never again will they learn war. (Is. 2:2-4, NASB)

This prophecy certainly found its inaugurating start at the first coming of King Jesus, however, if I were to be consistent with my current definition of the last days, this would have to be fulfilled by 70AD, because it takes place in the last days? That just doesn’t make sense, but it would work scripturally speaking, if I concluded that the last days ran all the way up to His second coming . . . ? Hope I’m making sense. Thoughts? Blessings!

Ben

Ben, yes, you are making sense. I don’t think “last days” has a one-size-fits-all definition. In any given use, you have to ask “last days of what?” and seek the answer from the context.

Justice Applications

I am currently reading the “Justice Primer”. I am not all the way through it, but it has hit a nerve.

Several years ago now my wife’s daughter’s 5-year-old son, (I would say “step-nephew” but that implies a relationship that is not there for reasons that will become obvious.) accused me of touching him inappropriately. What actually happened was that I did NOT touch him inappropriately, even though he was trying to get me to. My wife and I were visiting the family. My wife was sitting on a couch perpendicular to the loveseat in which the boy and I were sitting, about 8 feet away. The boy kept trying to get me to put my hand between his legs. After the third time I told him I was not going to and that adults should not be touching him there. I immediately got up and went outside to where his mother was and told her what happened. The next instant the boy called for his mom and said that I HAD touched him inappropriately. I was not asked about it, but after we left my wife was told that I was no longer welcome as I had touched her son inappropriately. I wanted an investigation. I called CPS, I spoke with chaplains and pastors. CPS said that unless the parent complained there would be no investigation. The chaplains and pastors were sympathetic, but of no help.

My problem is that I am trying to forgive my wife’s daughter for not even wanting to find out if it is true. I have not ever touched the boy inappropriately, but someone has. He has anger management issues, throws tantrums and had problems with pooping in his pants up to about age 4. His mom is absolutely resistant to any counseling for him. It is apparently easier to banish me than to deal with the problem.

I have forgiven her. For 4 years I have been working on it, trying to study biblical forgiveness, praying about it frequently, and most of the time it is on the back burner, but every once in a while it comes back to the fore. I ask the Spirit to help me, but it is still there. Perhaps this is a case where it won’t ever be gone because I am not as good at forgetting as God. Do you have any suggestions?

R

R, there is really nothing to do here except have the forgiveness wrapped up in a present, and ready to give it if it is ever sought.

Regenerate But Unreconstructed

No need to post this one publicly, but feel free to do so. In the past, I’ve emailed you concerning your views on the Confederacy, the Civil War, Lincoln, Reconstruction, etc., and I’ve shared some book recommendations challenging the notion that the South was defending States’ rights and the original structure of the 1787 Constitution against the nationalizing encroachment of Yankee Republicans, and that the Fourteenth Amendment marked the triumph of nationalism and the demise of Madisonian federalism. In reality, it was actually the South that was the nationalist subverter of States’ rights in the years leading up to the War, and the 14th Amendment was a moderate Republican project to restore, affirm, and protect antebellum federalism and State sovereignty and to limit Congressional power. In addition to the books I have previously recommended to you supporting this understanding of the War and Reconstruction, I thought you might check out these lectures/interviews from Prof. Kurt Lash, who is arguably the foremost Fourteenth Amendment scholar around. He’s a conservative Christian and a very bright constitutional theorist in the Originalist school: here and here.

So now you can see these views of the War are not just the speculative musings of some nobody small-town lawyer, but actually have all but become the consensus in serious historical and Constitutional scholarship, especially among conservative legal scholars.To be transparent about my intentions, I’d like to rehabilitate you from your pro-Confederacy views, not just because they are historically misinformed, but because ditching the “neo-Confederate” label might help your curb appeal, doncha think?

But if you persist in holding to a “Lost Cause” view of the Confederacy, I will still continue to hold you in high esteem, and of course I do not impute racism to people like you and Steve Wilkins who see the Old South through rose-colored glasses. I know what you guys are saying, and while I disagree with much of it, I know you’re not espousing racism. But still, give it some thought.

In Christ,

Joe

Joe, first, thank you for the charitable take. The one thing I would like to take issue with here is the idea that I am a sentimentalist Lost Causer. If you haven’t read my book Black & Tan, I would recommend it to you. I really don’t think rose-colored glasses enter into it.

It All Depends

Situational Submission—I’ll make it blunt and quick . . . is a wife required to submit to her husband when he is drunk? Does this (all told, frequent) abandonment of his duties mean she can/must act as the “head of household” until he is physically and mentally able to do so again? Thank you kindly!

Staci

Staci, I would respond this way. If your husband is slightly tipsy, yes, submit to him as normal. But if he is blotto, incapacitated, then absolutely not. You don’t want to be in the position of him saying the next day, “Why did you let me burn the house down?” If a husband is not in his right mind, whatever the reason, then there is no problem with his wife, or his kids, respecting his office by ignoring the man.

The Perpetual Virginity of Mary

Thank you for your extensive commentaries, and especially your book “Get the Girl.” I have listened to it multiple times and found it profoundly helpful. For a long time, I was misled by people who unfairly censure you, but this year, I’m very thankful to have “examined” your side with an open mind. While I still have some differences such as baptism, you are now among my most appreciated and consistently listened-to preachers. Under the headship of my church’s ministry team, I recently started my own reformed YouTube channel called Reforming the Dust; and I always find myself inspired by your word skills as I write!

I have a question for your “Ask Doug” series. What are your thoughts on the perpetual virginity of Mary?

This issue is very important to me. I know that some theologians think that it is an unimportant and inconsequential matter. But I believe it is vital to the doctrines of natural order and the marriage covenant. I believe that when people say Mary’s marriage was an exception to the law of consummation, that opens up the door to all manner of other perversion and man-made “exceptions” to God’s law, leveraging other sexual abominations. For this reason, I believe Mary’s sexual relationship with Joseph is worth fighting for and a hill to die on.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this! If there is any interaction with this letter, though, I would appreciate your keeping my name anonymous.

Glory to God,

Nathan

Nathan, we agree that it is important that we not affirm the perpetual virginity of Mary. It is doctrinally pernicious on a number of levels.

Exclusive Psalmody?

In “The Sound the Word of Christ Makes When Poured” from a few years ago, you mentioned that you don’t hold to exclusive psalmody, but do hold to dominant psalmody. You also pointed out that the passages talking about “psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs” likely refers to the Psalter.

I’ve seen some good arguments that the RPW requires exclusive psalmody because we only see commands to sing the Psalms in Scripture. I also did a lot of historical research and it looked like the early church didn’t sing anything other than Psalms for a few centuries. I haven’t yet found a good argument for singing things other than the Psalms.

What led you to not hold to exclusive psalmody? Could you point me to some resources on that, or write something about that? I’ve appreciated your thoughtful explanation of your position on things, and I’m wondering if you could help me understand this topic better. Thank you!

J

J, there are two basic ways to respond. One is to simply provide one counter-example. When Hezekiah recovered from his illness, he composed a song that was to be sung in the house of the Lord—and it is not in the psalter. “The Lord was ready to save me: Therefore we will sing my songs to the stringed instruments All the days of our life in the house of the Lord” (Isaiah 38:20). The theological response is that the strict version of the regulative principle that requires this is a principle that proves too much. If we say that anything not explicitly commanded is forbidden, then we lose Sunday worship, women partaking of communion, singing anything in church aloud, and so on.

R. Scott Clark and the Bee

Sir, I found your reaction to R. Scott Clark’s appearance on Babylon Bee to be particularly insightful. Two things stood out especially. Firstly, your general commentary helped to clarify for me the bottom line at issue: I resonate with your analysis—it sure sounds like Dr. Clark would find the idea of teaching Bible and catechism in Public schools to be more offensive than Drag Queens teaching transgender indoctrination; the latter at least wouldn’t violate our sacred “American” secularism. Indeed, as you observed at various moments in the video, he certainly sounds like he prefers our current secularist state of affairs to that of past generations that more reflected Christian values; he sounds like he would truly prefer a secularist society than one that was obedient to Christ. I was utterly dumbfounded by his suggestion that my preference for a Christian society (similar to what existed in the past) instead of the abominable current state of affairs is rooted in fear. Maybe it is because I genuinely believe such a society to be objectively better by any standard?

As you illuminated what Dr. Clark certainly did seem to be communicating; that he prefers a secularist state religion to a society obedient to Christ, my thoughts turned to Colonel Nicholson in “Bridge on the River Kwai,” who had become so comfortable and cozy with his captors that he forgot what side he was fighting for, and ended up aiding and abetting the enemy’s war effort.

Secondly, may I say that you absolutely nailed it by observing that our current society is ALREADY “punishing people who are not doctrinally correct.” I see that in my own circles on a regular basis – How many people have to cautiously choose their words to avoid violating transgender dogma or LGBT orthodoxy, for fear of being fired from their livelihood for expressing unapproved doctrine? I have to wonder if Dr. Clark really thinks that we would be safer from doctrine police in a secular society.

Thanks for your insight as always.

Daniel

Daniel, thanks. And good illustration.

Link?

“Unless the definition of sin comes from outside the world, there is no such thing as sin.” Tarski proved this in the early 20th century. Of course, this is true because the Bible says it’s true, but I find it fascinating that there is actually a formal logical proof of this fact, and that it is nearly 100 years old.

G

G, do you have a link to that proof?

Too Late Now, But Go Right Ahead

Simple question. If Christmas Day lands on the Lord’s Day, as it does this year, would it be a sin to open presents on that day, or should I move that to another day?

Or perhaps more generally, whether or not Christmas lands on the Lord’s Day, but on whichever day between Christmas and the New Year lands on a Sunday, would it be a sin to open presents?

I ask in light of the prohibition from speaking our own words and walking our own words on the Sabbath in Isaiah 58, and the call in WCF 21:8 to abstain from our own worldly recreations and employments on the Lord’s Day. Does that fall in that category? If so, why? If not, why not? Or is this a more liberal case for which we can answer, “Well, it depends . . .”?

God bless you and your ministry!

PS. Your involvement in the film Antichrist and His Ruin was a great blessing. Your interview was very clear and glorifying to Jesus Christ. Thank you!

Christopher

Christopher, I think that it is always appropriate to love one another with gifts.

Hagia and Hagiozo

Here’s a question that has been rolling around in my head for a while: if the child of a Christian parent is considered to be a Saint because of Paul’s evaluation in 1 Corinthians 7, wouldn’t a Christian’s unbelieving spouse also be considered a saint (per the appellation of “holy” in the same chapter)?

Sincerely,

Elliot

Elliot, good question. The adjective hagia, whenever it is applied to people is overwhelmingly rendered as saint. But the unbelieving spouse is set apart with the verb hagiozo, which doesn’t have that same kind of record.

Antisemitism is a Concern

It feels like you’re trying to force a point about antisemitism that’s not flowing very naturally out of your argument. Who is jealous of the Jews? Is this a problem in your church? Is there something the Jews have that you would like Christians to be jealous of? (The post seems like an ambiguous Baptist pulpit confrontation). It almost feels like you’re projecting some kind of weird personal fixation with the Jews. It’s kind of a creepy vibe. Otherwise keep up the good work. I appreciate all the “high performance people” stuff that you selflessly do for the benefit of others. Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah

Roger

Roger, just be patient. More is coming. But antisemitism is a growing problem in the conservative world, including in our circles around the country. Pastors need to be on it.

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The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago

Joshua, First step is to be clear in our use of language. Clarity of language enables clarity of thought. They are not migrants. They are illegal aliens. Second step is to take the left’s tactic of creative use of language and throw it right back in their smug faces. The difference between their use of language and ours is that we have truth on our side. For more punch, the following terms are a good starting point when referring to criminal aliens and those who aid and abet them: – Border deniers – Colonizers – Imperialists – Invaders – Imported… Read more »

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago

“I was a stranger, and you took me not in.” Matthew 25:43

Cherrera
Cherrera
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Notice that Jesus doesn’t say “I was a criminal invading your Rebublic…”

BTW, while I won’t point out the many other things you’ve said that aged like stale buttermilk, you were dead wrong about your pal Sam Brinton’s weirdness and mental issues not affecting his job.
Sam Brinton’s Kleptocratic Tenure at DOE Comes to a Campy End | Opinion (msn.com)

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Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago
Reply to  Cherrera

“I was a stranger and you took me not in.”

And I’m sorry, what does Brinton have to do with immigration, which is the topic we’re actually discussing?

Cherrera
Cherrera
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Thanks for admitting you were 100% wrong on Brinton and that the Jesus/illegal alien comparison was completely off-base. You could’ve doubled down or deflected but you….oh well, happy New Year anyway!

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago
Reply to  Cherrera

No, your immigration views have a stench of brimstone about them. Matthew 25:43 says what it means and means what it says. Re Brinton, are you suggesting that cis heterosexual males never engage in theft? Because the only way you can connect what he did with his sexual identity is if you can somehow show that his sexual identity was the cause or had something to do with the theft. Otherwise, one has nothing to do with the other. Besides which, what I actually said was that there was no evidence that he wasn’t competent to do his job, which… Read more »

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Mike, the godless Democrat who has never offered up his home to an illegal alien, homeless bum, or squatter, offering up excuses as for why this doesn’t apply to Martha’s Vineyard, Kamala Harris, or his personal domicile in three, two, one…

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago

“I was a stranger and you did not take me in.” Matthew 25:43

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago

And if I actually do say that it doesn’t apply to Martha’s Vineyard, Kamala Harris, or my own domicile, feel free to call me out on that. As of now, I’ve not said that, nor do I believe it.

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” -John 8:44

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago

Well, I’m just quoting Matthew 25:43. Are you claiming that the Gospel of Matthew lies?

Andrew
Andrew
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Mike, I’m not sure why you’re being given the 5th degree over your question. It’s a question many people ask, whether they are Christians or not. It goes something like this: “If Scripture speaks of inviting the stranger in (Jesus’ admonition), doing good to strangers (Good Samaritan), and entertain angels unawares, then shouldn’t Christians be welcoming of folks crossing the Southern border?” It really is a fair question, and I think it deserves a fair answer. There is a massive difference between the duties of one man to another. I don’t know who you are, Mike, but I have a… Read more »

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Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew

Andrew, thank you for your thoughtful and courteous reply. I agree with much of what you say, although I disagree with one of your premises. Matthew 25:32 explicitly states that in this judgment, Jesus gathers together “all nations.” So I see this as a national judgment. Nations are being judged, as nations, and it therefore follows that nations have an obligation to welcome the stranger. And this makes sense because nations have resources that individual homeowners don’t have. My house isn’t big enough, and my bank balance isn’t big enough, for me to personally accommodate thousands of immigrants. (I have,… Read more »

Andrew
Andrew
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Mike, I understand Jesus’ use of the term “all nations” here to indicate that the judgment of God, in which He separates the sheep from the goats, will not be for the Jews only, but will involve people from every nation. God’s judgment will be worldwide, in other words, no exceptions. I don’t take this as God judging actual nations particularly; rather, He is judging the people of every nation. The difference is both subtle and important. Will God judge a nation as a political entity on the Last Day because they closed their borders? I don’t think that’s what… Read more »

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew

Andrew: “I’m not sure why you’re being given the 5th degree over your question.” Perhaps this quote from Mike Freeman from about 8 months ago will help you out: And the problem with appealing to “Biblical standards” is that they are subject to confirmation bias and self-serving interpretation…It’s why people on both sides of any emotionally-laden issue, be it the death penalty, abortion, or critical race theory, are all able to cherry pick texts that support their position. That’s the same Mike Freeman, appealing to “Biblical standards” by cherry-picking one quote from Jesus in a ham-handed attempt to justify illegal… Read more »

Andrew
Andrew
1 year ago

Ex-fp, I think holding someone’s comment over their head for such a long time is akin to a lack of forgiveness and common charity. Supposing Mike is a “godless Democrat” (and you a “godly Republican”), pinning him with this label is not a wise (or godly) way to woo him to your side. But supposing he is not this, then yours is a libelous appellation and certain to have the opposite effect–illustrating that you are closer to what you have accused him of being. So, eight months ago, Mike suggested that some people perform terrible exegesis. Well? He’s right. I’ve… Read more »

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Since you, the godless Democrat, are so fond of quoting Jesus, then you should have no problem with Ukraine opening their borders to Russia.

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago

The Russians aren’t coming as refugees.

Ken B
Ken B
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

The Ukrainians are coming in large numbers to western Europe, and it is right that they should be helped. This can have both a corporate and individual dimension.

I think what you are experiencing here is a mixture of Calvinism’s tendency to have a loveless God and an aversion to doing good works in case the believer start trying to justify himself by such works.

Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman
1 year ago
Reply to  Ken B

Ken, I think it’s a bit more than that. It has always seemed to me that liberalism appeals to our better natures and conservatism to our worst instincts. In politics, the liberal says, “We can make a better world,” to which the conservative responds, “No we can’t, and besides, my taxes will go up.” For purposes of this discussion, it’s not even necessary to resolve which, if either of them, is right. It’s enough to point out that “we can make a better world” appeals to the best in us, and “no we can’t and I don’t want to pay… Read more »

Ken B
Ken B
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Mike – I think both the torturing God and the inclusive lovey-dovey God are both caricatures. Neither judgement nor mercy should be stretched that far.

I also think socialism can be based both on envy and a very real sense of wealth being accumulated by those who could never be said to have earned it by doing a job of work. Similarly with capitalism – this allows men freedom to create wealth, and it can also be driven by greed and rank exploitation. Greed is as much a hallmark of a godless society as homosexuality is.

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Neither are those coming in through our southern border.

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Dave
Dave
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Freeman

Mike, neither are the illegal aliens invading from both our southern and northern borders coming as refugees. The news makes it out that way, but that is not core issue. The media ignores the slavery, the human trafficking, the drug running, those bent on terrorist activities, those raped, murdered, or left to die in the Southwest desert and the general violating of US laws as soon as the illegals start moving about. When you cherry pick a verse concerning immigration, you ignore the biblical basis of that verse and the annual liberal attempt to justify illegal aliens falls short of… Read more »

Zeph
Zeph
1 year ago

Regarding Anchor Kids: The reason that America has birthright citizenship is the 14th Amendment, the first part of which says, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”… Read more »

Cherrera
Cherrera
1 year ago

Re: Babylon Bee, I’m afraid it may go out of business if the NY Times and Washington Post keep putting out serious but absurd content like this:
Fetterman on NY Times ‘Most Stylish’ List for 2022 | Newsmax.com

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Ken B
Ken B
1 year ago

Zach- I had quite a negative view of Leighton Flowers due to James White’s attitude towards him. To be fair something he does not have towards Michael Brown with whom he also disagrees on the subject of Calvinism. Listening to Flowers I find him an articulate proponent of a non-Calvinist view. He is good at dismantling MacArthur. He has helped me in my own liberation from Calvinism which long since collapsed under the weight of its internal contradictions. Perhaps another discussion of this between our host and Flowers might be useful, although maybe everything that could be said has already… Read more »

Nathan Ryan James
Nathan Ryan James
1 year ago
Reply to  Ken B

Flowers has at times willfully misunderstood and misrepresented White’s position. He’s not always debating in good faith. I’m sure that is what has earned White’s ire.

On another note, Calvinism often manifests itself as a set of theological emphases rather than as simply the doctrines themselves. When debating, formally or informally, Calvinists often show little interest in their own doctrines of free agency and secondary causation. Calvinism without these doctrines wouldn’t really be Calvinism, but unfortunately, it is what Calvinism at times appears to be. And it would be quite harmful.

Ken B
Ken B
1 year ago

The doctrine espoused in various catechisms that God foreordains everything that comes to pass makes agency and secondary causes somewhat redundant.

You cannot really maintain God predestines everythng and simultaneously argue he is not the author of sin.

John
John
1 year ago

I believe G is talking more broadly about Tarski’s theory of truth or “Convention T” in which a statement is true if and only if the language of the statement corresponds to the state of affairs in the actual world. His proof shows that any language is insufficient in itself to evaluate truth values expressed in said language. There must be a meta-language above the language to evaluate the truth values of the language. You can reason from this to the idea that moral truth values cannot be evaluated from within the system but must come from without. Although it’s… Read more »

Buford T. Crimethinker
Buford T. Crimethinker
1 year ago

To the last letter: In reality, nobody is envious of the Jews, and Doug is just grasping for something to save his boomer worldview from reality. In reality, people are just noticing that: 1: A whole lot of the most powerful positions in the Western world have, over the past century (give or take), come to be in the hands of people who happen to be Jewish. 2: That power has since been used to push an actively anti-Christian and anti-White agenda (abortion, trannyfags, financial slavery, and demographic replacement, among other things). Power didn’t have to be used that way;… Read more »

me
me
1 year ago

“I happen to believe that you can’t study men. You can only get to know them, which is a much different thing.”
CS Lewis, That Hideous Strength

James
James
1 year ago

And what’s more, the Japanese, at least in Japan, are overwhelmingly non-Christian, as are the Chinese, those are among the smartest people in the world. No one hates those people except as a security threat (and the Japanese only in the distant past).

Buford T. Crimethinker
Buford T. Crimethinker
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Indeed. I’ve never known anyone who hated Japanese who wasn’t (in descending order of vehemence, heh) Korean, Chinese, or a WWII vet. For that matter, I’ve never known anyone who hated Chinese who wasn’t Korean or Japanese. Yet in the West, they’re both far more successful on average than Whites, and in terms of household income, they’re both in the ballpark of Jews. Care to explain this, Doug? Or are you just going to continue your entirely baseless (and let us note, completely evidence-free: you’ve posted not a single quote, let alone a quote from anyone with any following, in… Read more »

Zeph
Zeph
1 year ago

R speak to an attorney about this. They are mandatory reporters. He/she will know who to exactly call to get this kid some help.

Last edited 1 year ago by Zeph
Amanda Wells
Amanda Wells
1 year ago

Pastor Doug, would you elaborate on what is pernicious about the belief in Mary as ever-virgin?

Cheer_For_Brandon
Cheer_For_Brandon
1 year ago
Reply to  Amanda Wells

I’m not Doug, but I can perhaps shed a little light on this: the notion that Mary is an ever-virgin is not supported by Scripture, and in fact goes directly against Scripture. Matthew 12:46-49 makes direct reference to Jesus’ mother and brothers. In Matthew 13:53-55, people are rejecting the teaching of Jesus because they knew him and watched him grow up. “Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all his sisters with us?..” (Mat 13:55, ESV). On top of that,… Read more »

James
James
1 year ago

Or that they were his older brothers from a previous marriage of Joseph, which seems unlikely, given that they don’t seem to be there in the Christmas story, and it is unlikely that Joseph would be that much older than Mary, who tradition says was about sixteen or seventeen when she gave birth to Jesus.