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May I ask for some recommendations on books about Christian Education if I were to want to inform someone who might be interested in financing a project that would eventually be a site on which to build an institution of Christian Higher Education?

Rocky

Rocky, for the current situation, there is not a lot. Ben Merkle of NSA has a book in the works on it. And for a general orientation, NSA has just released a white paper, which can be found here.

A Pressing Need for Definition

Re: the Theological Equivalent of the Butterfly’s Boots

Okay . . . there are lots of words and terms you use that stretch me and I do a search to increase my knowledge; but this one??? All I’m getting is ladies’ boots . . . including combat boots with butterflies on them . . . What am I missing here?

Thanks for all you do. Your ministry is such a blessing.

Laurel

Laurel, sorry about that. It is early twentieth century slang, the equivalent of the cat’s pajamas. It means something that is really swell.

Pastoral Confidentiality?

In the recent interview from NBC and reaction video to it, you spoke of the man in question being “busted in large part because of me”. This brought me to a question which has bothered me ever since I began reading Father Brown years ago- what’s up with the protection of the confessional? Where is the justice in allowing a person protections in confession? Is that a Catholic thing or do you also hold to that? From that clip, I wonder if you do not. I struggle with the idea, knowing that God has put in place here on earth certain spheres of jurisdiction, if you will. Can you explain to me why or why you do not hold to this position? I am reformed, but CONFUSED!

Rebecca

Rebecca, first, in that situation, the young man was caught in one offense, and in follow-up counseling, he confessed multiple other offenses to me. I then had him bust himself for those other offenses, which he was willing to do. When people come to me and confess something, I don’t promise anyone absolutely confidentiality because I never want to be in the position where they then tell me where they buried the body. But I am committed to pastoral discretion—there are many sins that have been confessed to me, some of them pretty dark, and it is part of my calling to help such people who have gotten themselves into a bad jam. If such people thought that I would be talking about their situation over the dinner table with friends, they would never seek out the help they need. So there is a fine line here. Some sins need to be dealt with and covered, and other sins are crimes that need to be dealt with more openly. And while the pastor has to have a framework for deciding, it needs to be the framework of the church, not the state.

Ah, Yes. Christian Nationalism

Your recent article on Christian Nationalism and the Nation State, Part 1 fascinated me.

I was raised on the east side of Flint (MI) growing up in the same house my father grew up in.

He was a second generation shop worker for General Motors.

His disdain for Blacks was probably inherited from his father but certainly when his Chevy van was vandalized during his shift or when a gunman shot into our family vehicle as he drove through the wrong side of town, the matter was pretty settled in his mind. Blacks were blacks and whites were whites. Whites lived on the east side and blacks didn’t. And that was that.

But what he didn’t realize was that our Eastside community was made up of not only whites but Hispanics and a fair amount of southern state immigrants who came north to work in the factory. We Eastsiders were a melting pot for sure but without the pepper.

When General Motors shut down its main operation, the neighborhood changed. It no longer really mattered whether you were white, Hispanic, black or from the south, what mattered was survival and getting out of the trenches.

To this day when I hear somebody say they’re from Flint I get excited because it’s an opportunity to talk about old times and old places even when those places and times were difficult.

Tom

Tom, your letter reminds me of the fact that when it comes to ethnic tensions, everyone has a narrative, and everyone has stories that fit into that narrative. Zooming out is one of the hardest things in the world to do.

Re:”Christian Nationalism and the Nation State, Part 1,”

I loved the baking illustration right near the end, and/but I think the metaphor might be extended a bit. The “reasonable” secularists are ignorant of the gluten. The high-octane postmodernist ones are not only aware of the gluten’s presence, but insist that society is collectively suffering from celiac disease, and that the cookie needed to crumble, and a new one be made from tapioca starch, soybean oil, and xanthan gum. (I suspect this frightful diagnosis + prescription is what is driving some folks into the other ditch of kinism?) Interestingly, not only do you need gluten for a dough to have its typical cohesion, but also for the leaven to be able to do its job over time (a function of the cohesion and elasticity). Having experimented a bit with this, I can say firsthand: nothing else, no other textural agent, really performs like gluten. I don’t know how far the analogy could be stretched (heh). Maybe best to explore it only on a full stomach.

Wesley

Wesley, yes. Although every analogy has its limits, I suspect that this one could go for quite a bit.

I was wondering what you thought of this article from Russell Moore?

I read it and my thoughts was that he was essentially lumping in Americans with unsavory Russians and what the fake news CNN says about the new Italian Prime Minister. It seemed to me Moore’s article was a dog’s breakfast, and the kindest thing I could say to this southern Baptist was bless his heart.

Thanks

Shawn

Shawn, bless his heart? Seriously? That bad? As far as the article goes, I thought it was a bucket of free association lame sauce. “Christian nationalism is a liberation theology for white people.” The issue is not whether Christian nationalism can save anyone’s soul, because I don’t know of any serious person who has been maintaining that it could. I can cheerfully grant that “Christian nationalism” can be wrong. So heed the warning. But it must be remembered that secular nationalism was wrong from the get go, by definition, and when did Moore warn us about that?

Yes, Quite

I recently watched your debate on gay marriage with Andrew Sullivan in the Canon App. One frequent theme in it was a call to give a critique of gay marriage outside of the Bible (obviously kind of an issue when we think worldviews). You brought up that it is a slippery slope and would lead to things such as polygamy. In looking at this debate through the lens of the current culture would you say that we could point to things like gender confusion/transgenderism, hormone therapy and surgeries on children, children’s drag shows, etc. as a byproduct of the push to normalize non-traditional marriage value? What else do you think has been a byproduct?

Thanks,

Nathan

Nathan, yes, absolutely. The whole world of sexuality is in churn, and all of it is a byproduct of our attempts to redefine marriage.

Headcoverings Again

I am a member of a church that does not practice head coverings in the way that I interpret 1 Corinthians 11 as commanding. I know this is a lesser matter of the church, which I believe you mention in your book “Mother Kirk,” and I know you interpret 1 Corinthians 11 as speaking of hair lengths exclusively. My church’s leadership interprets that passage as culturally bound and not applicable today other than in terms of wives submitting to their husbands.

Hypothetically, let’s say that in my church most, if not all, women had shorter hair than that of most, if not all, men. What would my responsibility as a member be in such a church? Do I live by example and pray only, do that and attempt to sway the opinions of the elders in one-on-one conversations, leave the church for one that practices this biblically, or something else entirely?

I also feel called to be an elder after my children are older and evidence their growing faith more. God willing they do, should I then seek eldership in the hypothetical church above of which I am a member? If so would my responsibilities regarding the head coverings/hair lengths issue change?

Thank you for your wisdom and hopefully I am not exasperating you yet.

Stephen

Stephen, you are not exasperating me. It seems to me that as a member, you should seek out the best place for you and your family to worship, despite the blind spots that such a congregation might have. But if you were to be considered for the eldership, you should make your convictions on this issue known. This is so that you might ascertain how teachable the current elders are, and the congregation. If they are inflexible, you should not become an elder as that would only lead to conflict. And you should probably seek out a church where service would be possible.

Check It Out

Thank you for all you do. My wife Jill and I have been reading your work since the mid 90s and it has been a great blessing. As you are wont to say, we should be living in such a way that our theology comes out our fingertips. Jill has been living that way as a faithful wife for a couple of decades and the fruit of her hands has been a great blessing to our family. She has recently been inspired to share that beauty with hopes of encouraging others to appreciate and cultivate the simple things of life. To that end she has started a YouTube channel called “Shirehill” using pictures, video and poetry to inspire love for the beauty of creation and the God who created it. You will find it here: Please share with your readers if you are so inclined.

Mike

Mike, thanks very much. Happy to.

A Matter of Definition

Do you read the account of Abraham’s visit from God before the destruction of S&G as anthropomorphic or literal? I’ve heard several pastors preach that it’s anthropomorphic as if they are trying to solve the problem of why it seems Abraham is physically speaking to someone when he’s bargaining with God. I believe it says that three came to visit and two went on to S&G. I believe one stayed behind with Abraham. That one was God and Abraham was speaking with him. So I think he was literally speaking to God, therefore no problem to solve. Am I completely off base? I was trying to explain it to a friend and he didn’t get it. So I thought I’d ask you before I keep questioning. Thank you!

Bethany

Bethany, I believe that the conversation actually happened, and that Abraham actually received them as visitors, and actually fed them. Sarah actually prepared the meal, with three measures of flour, which Jesus said the kingdom of God was like. But this is what is called a theophany—an actual appearance of God to humans, reduced to manageable proportions. So not “literal” completely, but not anthropomorphic at all.

Mankind

I have noticed a trend in society to use the newspeak “humankind”, or to increase the use of the they/them pronouns for an unknown gender.

If you would permit me, let me encourage the readers to lean the opposite direction, to lean into the federal headship of man (a la 1 Cor 11), and like my female 9th grade English teacher taught me, to default to the masculine if unsure of the gender.

For all mankind,

Tyler

Tyler, consider us all so encouraged.

Sexual Sins

I am someone who has wanted to be married for some time. I am also someone who has struggled with an on-off pornography problem for about the past ten years. You have said that such an affliction should be a disqualifying factor for anyone seeking to date, and I cannot disagree with the sentiment. Had I a daughter, I’d not want her dating someone who has failed to keep the biblical standards of sexual morality in that day.

I’ve managed to stay on the straight and narrow now for a 3 week stretch. My question is, how long should it be before I am able to attempt dating once more? I don’t mean to make this a system of works based righteousness regarding “being good enough”, but its important to me that should I start dating someone, I can speak with my struggles in the past tense, and not as a recurring issue, lest I be rejected by a godly woman for my failings. Please let me know, thanks.

Kyle

Kyle, you are probably not surprised to hear that I would say “longer than three weeks.” The issue, as you point out, would be the golden rule. Imagine yourself as a dad, dealing with someone in your identical position. If he had been clean for a year, you would probably not nix him on that account. If he had been clean for four weeks, you would probably want to wait.

[This letter has been altered/shortened in order to keep things anonymous.]

I’ve seen you teach on singleness as an affliction, and you are one of the few pastors I’ve seen adequately address this issue. I am a 34 year old, committed Christian man. I have the gift of teaching (as affirmed by various church teachers and elders at small/medium sized churches. I have a heart for the Lord, for truth, for sound doctrine and for discipleship. The problem is I’m a 34 year old Christian SINGLE man. Until age 30 I was always in a state that was qualified for service in the church per the Scripture (1 Timothy on elders and deacons). I waited until 30 for sex, and I did not look at porn pretty much from high school until then. Sure I had my areas of sin and struggle, but overall I had a clear conscience in all arenas of life. I served in middle school ministry, was active in church and Bible studies, took theology courses, etc. I had a strong prayer life and….I was not doing any of these things for people, I was doing them because I love God with a pure heart and love his Word as much as I love Him, because his Word is Him.

However, singleness at this age in life has left me in a position where I don’t think I am scripturally qualified morally to serve in leadership at this moment. My main issues are sexual temptation (in real life, not so much pornography although a little bit) and drinking. I just hate being single, am burning with passion, and the Lord has not provided me my escape. So I’ve developed sinful defense mechanisms that numb the pain and frustration. It does not justify my sin, I suppose it just shows me who I truly am when deprived and if I will still trust in God (kind of a Job thing) but . . . it’s not a fun trial and I don’t seem to have the ability to handle it as I should. Don’t get me wrong I’m not like running amuck even, when I tell my secular friends the actual sins I commit they still think I am a saint compared to the culture, but I know that I can’t serve with a clear conscience until this is resolved. Which is frustration upon frustration, as my hearts desire in life is wife . . . family . . . ministry. I literally want to serve God, but my singleness is preventing me from being an asset to a church and a benefit to believers and non-believers alike.

Anyways…It’s getting a bit insane. I [have a good job], just being promoted to manager, I make 120k+ a year, I’m athletic and fit, I have sound doctrine and am not progressive or liberal in any shape or form, I’m humble, faithful, honest, and esp older Christian wives who know me say in Bible studies just can’t believe I am single. To provide some context on myself.

I’m not really sure what my question is. I guess nobody has really been able to help. Maybe all I can really ask for is prayer. This prayer has gone unanswered for about 16+ years and I just need the Lord to help. I watch a bunch of different Christian podcasts and videos but being theologically/philosophically minded I do appreciate yours so figured why not send a note.

X

X, this is from a distance, and I don’t know all the details. But here is what I would suggest. First, repent of all known sin (as it looks like you have been doing.) You have been confessing sins as they occur, and they are sins you don’t have any permanent victory over. So confess them again, repent of them again. But then, do not attempt to walk straight without a plan. Make a plan. And the plan should include something like this. Go to five or ten trusted friends and/or family members. Tell them that you don’t believe in arranged marriages, and neither do they. But if they did believe in arranged marriages, and they were in charge of you, who would they arrange for you? Make a list that way, and pray over the list. Then go find her.

Thanks for Sharing Back

I lol’d at the description of your sermons containing “ex temp forays off into the bushes.”

Having listened to many of your sermons over the years, I can affirm that those forays, which are intended to make your sermons clearer, usually do just that.

However sometimes they reveal astonishing truths—truths that pull it all together, and have helped me immensely in my spiritual growth.

For example, in case anyone missed Psalm 42, at the end of your prepared remarks, you said (slightly edited):

One other thing. There are times when troubles mount and threaten to overwhelm you. David describes it as waves of trouble coming over his head.

Our troubles and trials may vary—financial, medical, an untimely death in the family, work trouble, marriage trouble, kid trouble—and when you are in the midst of that trial, it is very difficult to think about anything else. And that’s OK.

Just remember who sent the trial. God in his wisdom, God in his kindness, God in his mercy, determined that this trial is exactly what you need for this day.

So don’t panic. God sent it, so he’s the one to talk to about it. Plead with him. Argue with him. In Psalm 42, David gives us a model for how we are to do just that.

We can’t say, “God, I know you didn’t have anything to do with this, but could you please intervene and fix it?” That’s not biblical. Neither is, “God, I know you sent this to me, so I’m going to hunker down and take it, until you remove it from me.”

God sends troubles to you for the same reason that teachers in school give you tests; to see how you’re learning, how you’re advancing in class. They want to see if you’re understanding, and internalizing, the material.

If you don’t like tests, and even think they’re unfair, then you don’t understand the nature of school.

And if you think you can go through life without your faith being tested, then you don’t understand the reason for this life at all.

If God just wanted to populate heaven, he could save souls and blip us out of here. But God doesn’t want to just populate heaven, God wants to fit us for heaven!

And as we learn things, and as we work through the test, we often flunk the test. And God is gracious, and says, “All right, let’s take it over.” And we say, “I don’t want to take it over! That was a terrible trial!!”

Even David says that this is the worst trouble of his life; waves of trouble, the breakers of Jehovah, coming over his head.

But, he also says, God has always delivered His people, and God will deliver him from this trial. David shows us deep faith, and profound desperation, woven together.

Remember, God is giving you this trial for a reason, so you can learn to walk in the steps of David.

John

John, thank you.

Tax Money

I think I have read almost everything you have written on building back Christendom, over the next 500 years.

How should we think through tax money, to help with natural (God ordained) disasters, like Florida recently.

I just get nervous when I hear people say (and sometimes think myself) we are in trouble, how can the government help?

I think it was Ronald Regan who said, “The most terrifying words in the English language are” I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

Thanks for your thoughts,

PJ

PJ, my sentiments are close to yours. I think we should avoid federal money wherever possible. This is a fallen world, and it is not always possible, but we should lean hard in that direction.

I came across some of your family writings a couple of years ago, and that sent me down the Canon Press rabbit hole. So much of what you have written has set in concrete things that have been jangling around in my head in a while, and I and my family have benefited a great deal from your work—and that of the rest of your family as well. So, thank you, and I thank the Lord for his gift of you.

One of the things you’ve helped me to think through is education. I come from a country in which state education is assumed as the only kind, and I now live in a country in which state education is amongst the very few options permitted! So I wanted to write to you and ask if you have any advice for those of us in such situations, where homeschooling/starting Christian schools (truthfully anything other than state schools or existing private schools (amongst the wokest in the country) is flat out illegal (and enforced)?

I have a daughter approaching school age, and another child on the way, so how do those of us who want to take our responsibility to educate our children seriously move forward in a context like this?

Thank you for any thoughts you have, and, in lieu of any thoughts you don’t have, thank you for your time in reading this.

David

David, as I see it, you appear to have three options. One is to break the law, and just home school anyway. The second is to emigrate to a place where you can provide a godly education. The third, and least preferred, is to attempt some sort of mix and match—where you meet the state requirements minimally, and provide the real education at home.

Woke Workplaces

First and foremost, thank you for your ministry and the family you have raised around you. The collective ministry of you and your family have benefited my wife and I in many ways.

The question is as follows. I work for a large engineering firm that for the most part has been extremely good to me in terms of career growth and compensation. However, as large companies tend to do, they have just recently shown their cards on the issue of abortion, coming out with a statement that they are “working to understand how recent legal proceedings affect our ability to provide abortion benefits” (I shudder with those last two words being used in conjunction).

Where do we draw the line going forward when it comes to our occupations? The market is very in demand for my career, so at what point to you believe we must take leave of companies that continue to support abortion?

How do we decide when the corporate hog wash is too much to justify with ‘the pay/work/stability is really good for my family’?

Best

Nate

Nate, I think it is possible to work for a woke company without compromise. The red line would be when they demand that you affirm that their policies are good and right. But a woke environment could become really tedious for a thinking Christian long before the red line was crossed, and so I would be praying for alternatives in the meantime.

Word and Spirit

[Addressing The Light From Behind The Sun ch. 3 – The Curious Presence of Emeth]

For about a decade, the presence of Emeth in Aslan’s Country was the one real stain on The Last Battle for me and represented my biggest theological objection to Lewis in general (bigger even than purgatory, which I understand Lewis to have essentially reworked as a mechanism of sanctification rather than propitiation).

I’ve gone back and forth on how much this objection should colour and affect my view of Lewis generally as a theologian but after reading your chapter on Emeth I found myself pondering the novel idea that he could possibly be correct.

For a Calvinist, the pressing question of inclusivism is whether the Spirit ever regenerates apart from the prior preaching of the word by, say, a missionary in an unevangelised region. Romans 10:13-15 has always tipped me against this idea but looking over it again I’m wondering if it’s definitive enough to decide this question, and I’m not sure what other Biblical data there is to bring to bear on the issue.

What really bowled me over though was your statement that this inextricable bond between the preaching of the word and the regenerating work of the Spirit probably originated with Luther. I’m all ablaze with curiosity over that, could you possibly elaborate further on that idea?

Many thanks,

Tom

Tom, sorry that I can’t put my finger on it, but there is something good in Berkhof’s Systematic Theology on the Lutheran welding of Word and Spirit. And I do believe that Lewis has a point—although he would grant much more latitude with regard to that point than I would. I like how the Westminster Confession puts it, in that outside the church there is no ordinary possibility of salvation.

And Include a Card

To AR in your last letters section:

Send your mother flowers on YOUR birthday.

JR

JR, and the card should read “Happy Labor Day!”

A Kinist Response

Good Morning Mr. Wilson! I wanted to interact with your piece Kin, Skin, and Sin, and offer some insight from across the aisle. You say that those who are ethnically conscious when faced with an Orc horde will attack the black orcs primarily. This is incorrect and is not representative of the beliefs held by ethnically conscious Christians.

Note that I don’t mention race, as you adjured us not to, and correctly. We are all men, created by God descended from Adam. To call other ethnicities less than human is foolish. However, to note the differences between adherents to the Christian faith of European descent as a general group and those who adhere to Pagan practice of various descent (European or African in your examples) is neither sinful nor unproductive. Calling out the overwhelming precedent of African descendants towards violence, or the proclivity of Kabalists towards corruption is no more sinful than Paul rightly noting the debauchery of the Cretans.

The end goal of Christian nationalists and Kinists in America is and should be one and the same: A faithful nation, baptized by the church in faithful service to Christ and His laws. You attack one of the two enemies fervently, and yet admonish us for attacking the other with equal vigor. The first enemy of course is Communism and Marxism. The proponents of that ideology and their foot soldiers are overwhelmingly Talmudic Satanists and their Sub-Saharan thrall. While outliers do exist (Scots can be degenerate too), we Scots do not attack Scots for Scottishness nor do we attack Africans for Africanness. We laud those who support Christ and His glory on earth and attack those who oppose it, regardless of their color, despite the fact that the overwhelming vocal majority of the orcs at the gates are African descendants led by Kabalic Marxists.

A brother in the faith such as Voddie Baucham is not anathema to a consistent Christian Nationalist because of his skin tone. An enemy to the faith like Alistair Crowley is not lauded by the same for his whiteness. The ideology of Christian Nationalism holds Christ the King and His glory as our summum bonum. As a lesser concern, we hold the prosperity of our European heritage as the most productive building block of a Christian Nation for European Christians. While we would welcome with open arms reformed Africans, we also affirm that the best place for them is baptizing their own ethnic nations into their own Christian Nationalism, in the environment where they are most ethnically inclined to thrive.

Where no man can thrive is in a lawless society. In America, lawlessness is overwhelmingly perpetrated by those out of place ethnically from the founding of our nation. The ethnic makeup of these perpetrators is at odds with that of our nation, and these differences present themselves time and again. In a setting less diverse, European Christians thrive and African Christians thrive together. In a more diverse setting, the differing ethnic concerns and values that are tertiary to Christian righteousness can lead to the undermining of the same.

I have more to say, but I want to give you something you could actually respond to without spending too much time reading. Thank you for bearing with my introduction to the Christian Nationalist complaints at your characterization of our camp, and I pray God would bless the Church with unity on this issue. If that be the ceding of my point, I await conviction eagerly. If it is the ceding of yours, I await vindication with the same eagerness. If a blend of the two, may Christ be glorified above all else.

Michael

Michael, thank you for taking the time to write. I see the cultural differences you point to, but I want to give the glory for those distinctions to the power of the gospel. “For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?” (1 Corinthians 4:7). Test your commitments this way. Imagine white America doubling down on her apostasy, and wrecking our cultural heritage. We see it happening right now in California under Gov. Newsom, not Gov. Goldstein. Suppose that happens. And suppose the gospel takes root in an African country, such that they proper mightily. Would you have any trouble granting a black nation that was culturally superior to a white one? I would not, and, just like now, I would want the glory to go to the power of the gospel.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
1 month ago

Ok. On another tech device..todays post date is accurate…hmmm..does not redirect me to Sept 30th!🧐

Armin
Armin
1 month ago

Doug, regarding your response to Michael: Imagine white America repenting of her apostasy, doubling down on the gospel, and embracing anew our cultural heritage. We see the opposite happening right now in California under Gov. Newsom, not Gov. Goldstein, but suppose that totally reverses. And suppose the gospel takes root in this or another white country, such that the white country prospers mightily. Would you have any trouble granting a white nation that was culturally superior to a black or other non-white one? I would not, and, just like now, I would want the glory to go to the power… Read more »

Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

Armin, let me first give an answer to your question in what I hope was its intended framework. And then I have some problems with the question as posed, and a follow-up question for you. Of course it’s possible for a Christian white nation to be culturally superior to a non-Christian, non-white nation. I doubt many conservative Christians would find it controversial to say that medieval European Christian nations were culturally superior to their contemporary pagan nations in the Americas or sub-Saharan Africa. But the question as you pose it has problems. First, you contrast a white nation which has… Read more »

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

I literally asked Doug the exact question he asked the race realist, but replaced black with white. The answer of course should be an unequivocal “yes,” otherwise, an anti-white double standard is present. Doug is certainly not obligated to answer my simple question, but he probably did see it, and it seems like an easy thing to do to show that his form of “Christian Nationalism” does not have a bias against the race of people that would be most inclined to adopt it.

Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

Your question was not the same as Doug’s question with black and white reversed, and please see my previous comment for details. It was similar, but it contained problems that Doug’s original question didn’t have.

And while Doug may or may not explicitly answer your question, I would greatly appreciate it if you would answer his.

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Fine, let’s say my question should have mentioned black “nations” that were apostate. Whatever. I took that for granted, since that’s how most, if not all of them are. The “problem” with my question was that the obvious answer would have been positive toward whites, while to answer Doug’s question would have been negative. White positivity is simply beyond the pale for many. The fact that America is not 100% white misses the point. I didn’t need to say “the subset of America that is white” because everyone gets that America is still normatively white, even as the white percentage… Read more »

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Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

Thank you for clarifying that you did mean to imply a pagan or apostate non-white nation in your question.

Now, I cannot speak for Doug, but I’m certainly happy to say unequivocally that a faithfully Christian white nation is on a path to become culturally superior to any pagan or apostate non-white nation, if not already there. And I’ll also happily say the reverse, that a faithfully Christian non-white nation is on a path to become culturally superior to any pagan or apostate white nation, if not already there.

Doug aside, would you affirm both of those?

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Why do you care what I think? I’m nobody. A nation is a people of shared ancestry, culture, and history, not people of a shared religion (although that can be part of it). In the same way that I want my family to be Christian, I also want my nation (my extended family) to be Christian. But my nation is still my nation whether they’re Christian or not. That’s why I’m not a Christian Nationalist, anymore than I’m a Christian family-ist. If everyone in my family apostatized, that would not change the fact that they’re still my family. I don’t… Read more »

Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

Why do I care what you think? Because you’re the one who decided to pose the reversed question, without actually answering the question as originally posed. And also you’re a frequent poster here. If I shouldn’t care what you think, why do you bother to post here at all? As far as what is meant by culturally superior, I note that this was exactly the term Doug used in the original question. And you yourself used the term when you posed the reversed question. And I quote, with emphasis added: Doug, regarding your response to Michael: Imagine white America repenting… Read more »

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Right, “culturally superior” in whatever sense he meant it. The question had to do with whether he would grant the same consideration to whites as he would to blacks. It was about a presumably anti-white double standard. His actual meaning of the term wasn’t particularly relevant to the question. But now you’re asking me whether I think X situation would produce a “culturally superior” outcome to Y, which means we have to establish the meaning of the term. But the fact is that this question is a bit silly, like asking if I thought my family would be “superior” to… Read more »

Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

So in other words, the question that comprised your original post was not a good-faith attempt to interact with Doug’s response to Michael. You reject the logic of the question itself (on the grounds of its terms being insufficiently defined). But instead of saying that, you coyly reversed the question so as to imply that Doug has a double standard (for which you’ve provided no evidence, just a “presumption”), in a lame attempt at a “gotcha.”

I am disappointed, but I can’t say that I’m surprised.

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

I humorously copied his question word for word, making the necessary changes in order to apply his same standard to white people. It should have been obvious what I was doing, and I don’t know how you don’t see it. I might think it’s a silly question, but the fact is, he didn’t, and was attempting to oppose race realists with the question. I could have just said, “Doug, that’s a silly question,” but then he could just say “I disagree.” Instead I attempted to apply his own logic in a way that serves the race realist position and reveals… Read more »

Robert
Robert
1 month ago

hahah, Great idea to AR! Send his mom flowers on *his own* birthday… haha, “Labor Day” ….Great. Thanks!

Nathan
Nathan
1 month ago

It seems to me the kinist apologist here is rationalizing with care good reasons for his ethnic judgments and disdain, while failing to logically follow thru. If it is the acts and arguments of these flawed ethnicities which are worthy of critique, why extend the critique to the ethnicity at all? Why not simply condemn the violent, the marxist, the degenerate? There is no clear benefit for the ethnic characterization that i can see, unless it is to justify and rationalize pre-existing prejudices. This is the trap of kinism, either it is honestly done “right” which means in practice it… Read more »

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Nathan

So if a white woman sees a young black male at night on the street or in the parking garage, she should just ignore the fact that he’s black and not take any precautionary measures? That’s pretty messed up. Do you just want people to get hurt?

Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

So if a white woman sees a young white male loitering on the street or in the parking garage, wearing a tank top and baggy pants and with a skull tattooed on his shoulder, she should take comfort in the fact that he’s white and not take any precautionary measures? If a white woman sees a young black male walking briskly down the street or up the parking garage, wearing a polo and slacks and carrying a briefcase, she should fear him more than the above-mentioned white thug? You can quote all the crime statistics you want, and I can… Read more »

Armin
Armin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Ironic that the “dangerous” white is assumed to be dangerous because he’s adopting black style and mannerisms. That white is more frightening than an average white precisely because his appearance suggests a higher-than-average adoption of black norms, which suggests a higher likelihood of being crime-prone. But that’s beside the point. Assuming an average black or white male, the black male is going to elicit a more frightened response, as it should, given black male proclivities toward violence.

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Mike M.
Mike M.
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

Ah yes. Never mind that in any actual situation, you’d necessarily pay attention to the specifics. Let’s just assume a perfectly spherical chicken of uniform density.

Nathan
Nathan
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike M.

And never mind that the white thug could as easily have been dressed like a punk goth or looked a tweaker. As if somehow only “black” gangster cultures have threatening implications. Cultural differences and statistics are solid measures for discussing populations. They are garbage measures for discussing individuals. That has always been true. And will always be true. When it comes to assessing an individual for *anything* the least useful measure is your ability (often flawed) to correctly identify their immutable categories. Far more useful are the obvious markings of their personal values and choices, including present behavior, personal accoutrement,… Read more »

Cherrera
Cherrera
1 month ago
Reply to  Nathan

I’m not sure if a punk goth is a good example. Most of them are harmless….the only harm they may do is to themselves. The only exception are ones recruited into Antifa. But they aren’t likely to assault someone alone unless they’re desperate for drug money. I can’t think of many guys less physically threatening than a 125-pound Marilyn Manson wannabe.

demosthenes1d
demosthenes1d
1 month ago
Reply to  Armin

If you don’t encourage your sisters and daughters to only be around Asian and Jewish men (who have much lower rates of violent offenses then misc. white men) then that is pretty messed up. If you wouldn’t encourage that precautionary measure you just want them to get hurt.

Ree
Ree
1 month ago

“ It means something that is really swell.”

Swell?

Just kidding. But I’m not sure all your readers will know that one either (or the cat’s pajamas, for that matter.) Haha

Zeph .
Zeph .
1 month ago

David, a lot of people use the third option. Hebrew School, Japanese School, Islamic school. A lot of groups have their young take a day on the weekend for these courses in formal classroom settings. It is not optimal, but it can work.

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Cherrera
Cherrera
1 month ago

While we’re arguing about who the real Christian Nationalists are (or decrying the movement as a threat if you’re a Big Eva clown), Satanic degenerates on the Left are using the alphabet agencies (read: our tax dollars and force of the law) to push Totalitarian Globalism. How about uniting for a while instead of splitting into countless factions? The latter has done nothing but harm over the last 6 or so decades.
Medical Groups Ask DOJ to Investigate People Against Child Trans Surgeries (breitbart.com)

Praying for you, X
Praying for you, X
1 month ago

Re: letter on singleness from X Dear X, First and foremost, I am praying for you. As someone who desired to marry long before I did, I can empathize with your situation. Second, I want to gently offer a brother some correction. You wrote, “I literally want to serve God, but my singleness is preventing me from being an asset to a church and a benefit to believers and non-believers alike.” This is concerning for two reasons. First, you say that it is your singleness that is preventing you from being an asset to a church. Brother, it is not… Read more »

Cherrera
Cherrera
1 month ago

Some very good advice, but I’d be careful with Sam Alberry. Maybe you can read his advice specifically about dealing lust, but he’s very friendly with the SSA/Revoice crowd along with other wokesters He retweeted Nada Bolz-Weber’s vagina sculpture made of purity rings (Bolz-Weber is a lesbian apostate “pastor”). His Living Out website has posted articles suggested two men with homosexual proclivities live together as a “celibate” couple with an “intimate, close relationship.” What could go wrong? Would any serious Christian suggest X live with a very attractive Christian woman and have a close, intimate but “celibate” relationship? Where Does… Read more »

Praying for you, X
Praying for you, X
1 month ago
Reply to  Cherrera

Hi Cherrera, Thanks for the reply. You clearly care to see that your fellow believers are not led astray by false teaching, and I applaud that and am grateful for it. May I offer the same caution to you? I do not trust Pulpit and Pen (now Protestia), and would caution you to do so. It does publish true things at times, but much of it is clickbait but even worse, it often seems to smear (by bearing false witness about) our brothers and sisters in Christ. I do not trust a publication that claims to be Christian, but that… Read more »

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Cherrera
Cherrera
1 month ago

“My other reason for not trusting those publications, though, is that it is shoddy research” “You mentioned that Alberry had re-tweeted an image of an obscene sculpture, but even the article you cited.” The article I linked said nothing about the sculpture. I’d refrain from so quickly stereotyping others as “shoddy” and “clickbait” if you’re doing the same thing. This article (not the one I linked) mentions it: Sam Allberry Retweets Praise for Article Lauding Nadia Bolz-Weber’s Purity Ring Vagina Statue (pulpitandpen.org) What’s false about their quotes and summary of Tish Harrison Warren’s article? (“Warren’s point is that the architects… Read more »

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Cherrera
Cherrera
1 month ago
Reply to  Cherrera

This is a very sober article (the last of a 5-part series) on Living Out if the other stuff is too click baity for you. I’d focus mostly on where they deviate from God’s Word before removing specks from those who hold to the Bible but may get a bit overzealous in their rebukes at times.
Living Out – A Follow-Up and Call to Further Action – Alpha and Omega Ministries (aomin.org)

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Praying for you, X
Praying for you, X
1 month ago
Reply to  Cherrera

Hi Cherrera, Thank you for our reply. I think our disagreement stems from not fully knowing where the other stands, but before I address that, I wanted to apologize for a misunderstanding. I was not criticizing you but cautioning you against P&P for reasons that I believe are biblical. Please forgive me for communicating in a way that made you feel attacked – that was not my aim. I think you mistook my condemnation for P&P’s shoddy research for a rebuke of you – at the time and even now I applied those terms to P&P and not to you,… Read more »

Elisabeth
Elisabeth
1 month ago

That #gif of that woman falling in the pool, what is that all about?…..showing off and then falls because she was being a show off?

I want my children…i desperately need help….i cannot take this abuse any longer! BEN JACOB ARDELIA please give them to me!

Mark H.
Mark H.
1 month ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

Looks like she missed a step on the fashion show runway. Living close to the edge.