Some Additional Kibbitzing
What with the recent Dave Chappelle bit on SNL, you sure picked the wrong week to mock people who’ve (((noticed))). Like the man said: ‘When it’s blacks, it’s a gang; when it’s Italians, it’s a mob; when it’s Jews, it’s a coincidence and you should neeeeeever speak about it.’ Missing the laughter, you add, ‘…and you’re just envious.’ It’s shameful for you to keep and cherish this ridiculous cultural blind spot. Your position on (((noticing))) isn’t just untenable, it’s now a punchline.
Buford
Hey, Buford. I have more than a little suspicion that you have not read all the things I have written on this subject over the years. You refer to my position as though you understand what it is, but you clearly don’t. I am capable of noticing quite a few of the same things that (((( parenthesis-mongers))))) do—it is just that I don’t then render (((universal))) by induction. Thus, I think that wicked Jews are wicked, and that what they do is not a coincidence. But I also think that Jews who aren’t destructive to society aren’t destructive, just like law-abiding blacks and Italians. And I don’t think Woodrow Wilson was such a disaster for America because he was an Anglo.
“I think we also need to recognize that it was the progressive left that created and continues to sustain this abysmal situation.” Um, no. The progressive left did not give us slavery and Jim Crow. Those are national sins, for which God will continue to visit the iniquity of the fathers unto the third and fourth generation, until there is national repentance. We can discuss what that repentance should look like, but until there has been national repentance, the consequences of those sins aren’t going away.
And every word you write on the subject simply underscores that you aren’t repentant. You fault those who point out continuing injustice, and ridicule them as woke, rather than deal with continuing injustice. You slander critical race theory by calling it Marxist, which indicates only that you understand neither Marxism nor CRT. None of that indicates repentance. So continue to expect the judgment of God.
Kathleen
Kathleen, it would seem from your comments that are maintaining that the Frankfurt school wasn’t Marxist. What was it then? I could make Buford happy by calling it Jewish, but what would you call it?
I wanted to write about some concerns I have with Andrew Torba. I’ve read his book on Christian Nationalism, which was excellent, and has your endorsement, but I keep noticing some alarming comments both from his Gab account and his Twitter accounts that seem anti-Semitic. I’ve linked a few examples below (language warning on the last one). I know his handling of ethnicity in his book is orthodox, but I worried that he may not be exactly who he says he is. Are you aware of these accusations again him and do you have any thoughts? Here, here, and here
Sam
Sam, there are certainly some worrisome things there. I highlighted one of them in my post yesterday. I don’t believe he is being disingenuous in what he affirms, but I believe that at a minimum he is reading the battlefield in an extraordinarily foolish way.
Ward and Lewis
I’m preparing to teach a Sunday school class in 2023, on C.S.Lewis. I will find opportunities, I’m sure, to refer to your book on him, A Light From Behind the Sun. There’s no index, and I’ve not completed it yet, so I don’t know if it shows a familiarity you might have with Michael Ward, who wrote two works on his theory about Lewis’s secret connective framework that he worked into the Chronicles of Narnia (If memory serves, they were The Narnia Code and Planet Narnia).
Are you familiar with his thesis? (That each of the seven books were filled with allusions to a planet of the pre-Copernican universe.) If you are, what do you think of it? Also, what does it say about Lewis that he took this secret to his grave, when it could have shut up Tolkien who found the Narnia books a total mishmash?
Steve
Steve, yes. We have had Michael Ward here to speak several times, and his Planet Narnia is one of the best books I have ever read. Easily in the top ten.
Lawsuits Before Unbelievers
Your recent Plodcast (The Foundation of Human Rights) brought to mind a question that I have had for a while. I Corinthians 6:5-6 said it was shameful for them to bring lawsuits before unbelievers. But Romans 13:4 says that the government is “God’s servant for your good” (ESV). Where is the shame in bringing a lawsuit before “God’s servant”? Is the government that Paul was speaking of a more Godly government that would hopefully appear in the future, but did not exist in Paul’s time (“…let’s just say England in 1590”)? Do governments like this wax and wane in faithfulness, and it is up to the church to judge? So Christians bringing a lawsuit in 1590 England would be acting faithfully, but bringing a lawsuit in 2022 England would be acting shamefully? I have never quite understood how “there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God” (Romans 13:1) and you can have a government that is run by Stalin or Mao Zedong. Please do not thinking I am judging the Word, but this has been something that I have desired to understand faithfully—especially in this day and age. BTW: I have read Slaying Leviathan and Vindiciae Contra Tyrannos, and I apologize that the answer to this question is still not clear to me.
Thank you again,
David
David, Paul does not say that Christians cannot bring a civil suit against a fellow believer. Nor does he say that we shouldn’t submit to the determinations of such a court if such a decision were to be applied to us against our will. He says that when there is a dispute between two Christians (who have the Word of God), it is shameful for either of them to go before an unbelieving civil magistrate and ask him to tell them what justice is. Just humiliating.
Forgiveness and Politics
Can you speak to the topic of forgiveness in politics? I certainly believe in forgiving individuals, especially if they are repentant, for bad policies that they were behind. But I also think there should be no forgiveness or forgetfulness of bad policies and the political movements that pushed them. Using the obvious extreme examples, I don’t think I would ever forgive Nazi or Communist parties and movements for their atrocities had I lived through them, and I see no reason to dampen my fury or desire for justice for so much of the last several years. But I’m having trouble teasing out the biblical principles and nuances on this issue.
Ian
Ian, sure. Forgiveness of this sort is a transaction, and you cannot conduct a transaction with only one party participating. The party concerned still stands for doing the same things again given the opportunity. You cannot forgive an evil party for their genocide, when they are still in the middle of their genocide.
Pastor Wilson,
I was talking to a woman at work who attended a Catholic middle school and received frequent knuckle rappings for not having the skirt below the knee. The reason she was given is that we “don’t want to make the boys stumble.” She is now a staunch, frumpy lesbian wearing a preponderance of plaid. She recounted that story to me like there was something that died in her at the time. To her, it seemed like beauty was nothing but treachery; something to be hid. Like an aesthetic HIV, she had to spend a lifetime cautious of accidental transmission.
There is obviously legitimacy to the idea of the types of clothes women wear promoting the type of guy they are wanting to attract. As untoward some may think the word “hoochie mama” may be, it is a word for a reason, and that reason has much to do with surface area of bare skin in square inches. But I also think there is another level.
As a father of an 11-year-old girl who LOVES fashion, I have had opportunities to talk about clothes choice, make-up, nails, etc many times a week. She is obedient, happy, and trusts me even when I can tell she may not be thrilled about my decisions.
One thing I constantly massage into my daughter’s mind, mostly because she is too young for me to go into the whole object of sexual attraction thing, is that Modesty is also meant to protect Beauty. Femininity is part of God’s image and seems to have as its key characteristic Beauty. On planet Earth, the shape Femininity takes is the female form. It was given to her to enjoy and reflect the clearest image of God’s beauty, so that it flows back to him and isn’t hoarded by stuffing it into hemispherical lycra.
As a man, the Image takes a different form, and I was not given this gift in the same way, and so cannot protect it in the same way. I am like Sam to Frodo: I cannot carry the ring, but I can carry her. I do not have as immediate a connection to Beauty as she does, but I can protect her while she is protecting it. So my role as a father is both to help protect her from men by using modest dress, but also protect the Image of God from being mismanaged by her by principles of Modesty.
The image we were made in is meant to be as unmuddled and ungreasy as we can make it, so that the world can see the Lord’s strength and Beauty through how we use these gifts. It leads others to see the immaculate and sublime God through her physical beauty and the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, instead of the beauty terminating on her midriff.
Tim
Tim, nothing to say except for amen.
Elder Qualifications
I am a member of a faithful, elder-led church. It is clear that God is at work here and that our elders seek to glorify God. Some of our elders have adult children who do not profess Christ or are living in ways that give sufficient evidence that even their father (our elder) does not believe them to be saved. My reading of the requirements for elders would require me to step down as elder if I were in their position, yet they do not and there seems to be no appetite for this to be suggested by the congregation. When it is brought up, the pastor and elders seem to feel that the passages requiring believing children only apply to young children living in the father’s household. Any help clarifying the situation and suggestions on how I ought to proceed would be appreciated.
Your brother in Christ,
Anonymous
Anonymous, I agree with your general take. The problem is that when the children are young, the excuse is that they are too young to determine anything, and the upbringing is not over yet. And then, when they are grown and gone, and the upbringing is completed, the excuse is that they are out of the house, and no longer under their father’s authority. For more on this, check out my book The Neglected Qualification.
A True Crime Question
I am not sure if you’ve noticed our culture’s growing fascination with true crime (especially young adult women). In light of this, how should a Christian go about engaging with this genre of…entertainment (for lack of a better term)? I am eager to hear your thoughts.
Christian
Christian, depending on how graphic or lurid the storytelling is, it could be seeking to satisfy a morbid sort of lust. At the same time, it is lawful in principle, depending on how it is done.
Men and Beards
Hi Pastor Doug, just regarding men & beards, what to do in a situation where the husband enjoys having a beard & the wife really prefers him clean shaven? Should the husband shave for the sake of his wife or should she rather try to get over the beard issue?
George
George, like so many other issues in this category. I remember in the Navy we used to have the question, “Are you growing a beard or are you not shaving?” Some men, when they are not shaving, are still not growing a beard. If your beard is a scraggly thing, then you should listen to your wife. She is the one who has to look at it. But suppose it is a good beard. If your wife is a wise woman, and does not want her husband posting photos of his beard on Instagram so that all the other guys can say whoa about how epic it is, again, listen to your wife. Too many Christian women change their profile pic so that all the friends can comment on how hot she is, and that is a small indicator of how flattery and narcissism are creeping into the church. And because there is a small industry of guys starting to do the same kind of thing, so that would be bad. But if your wife is simply put off by the masculine nature of a beard, then you need to (patiently) work with her through that, and with a beard at the end of it.
Christ and Divorce
In your answer to a question you said: “Moses granted divorce because of man’s hardness of heart, and Jesus approved of Moses doing so.” What in the text ( that one or another) brings you to the conclusion that Jesus “approved” of Moses doing this?
BJ
BJ, the allowance that Moses made for divorce was a scriptural allowance, meaning that Moses was right to allow it. And Jesus said that Scripture could not be broken (John 10:35).
The Challenge of Forgiveness
“Are Christians ever required to forgive a person even if that person never repents? Is forgiveness only to be extended when asked for? Rose
Rose, the short answer is yes, but with a qualification. Forgiveness is to be extended before it is requested, but it cannot be transacted until it is requested.”
Ok, thanks. This is where I’m at. Two questions if you don’t mind. First, the shorter:
“Forgiveness is to be extended before it is requested.” What are some practical ways to communicate that to the one whom we are to forgive?
Next, the longer: Eph. 4:31-32 says,
“Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.”
I see these verses telling me to do two separate but related things: 1) put away bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, evil speaking, malice, and 2) be kind and tenderhearted while forgiving.
In other words, forgiveness always implies putting those bad things away and being kind and tenderhearted, but putting those bad things away and being kind and tenderhearted does not always imply forgiveness?
My question: how to do that? Because that seems like a tall order. Not conflating those things is something I rarely do successfully, if ever. And I am wondering if I am unsuccessful because I’ve got it all wrong?
grh
grh, I would say that putting the first set of things away is the process of extending the forgiveness, and the second set would be the proof of whether you had done so—when the person comes and seeks it, you are prepared to conduct the transaction. If you are not, then that means you weren’t successfully putting anything away.
Eschatology Still
I’m writing to try to clear up some confusion in my mind about eschatology. About a year ago I listened to your sermon on the new heavens and the new earth. I thought it was great and made me view eschatology in a completely different way. I had one question regarding Revelation 21. In that passage it says that in the new heavens and new earth death shall be no more. So why is it that you claim there will be death in the new heavens and new earth? I know that you’re a busy guy but I would love if you would respond to my question.
Caleb
Caleb, I believe that in the Christian aeon the new heavens and the new earth have been inaugurated, but have not yet come to their fruition. When it all comes to fruition, as it is doing in Rev. 21, there is no more death. It is a gradual build. Fifty years into the process, you might not notice a difference. Near the end of it, the guy who dies at a hundred is considered accursed. But then the whole thing is swallowed up by life.
Realistic Hyperbole
I just watched your live Q&A with Jared and you mentioned being hauled off in train cars . . . Do you believe that’s actually something possible on the horizon, or was that more of an exaggeration to make a point?
Coming from an Arminian dispensationalist background, and being a rather newly reformed postmil, it’s very difficult to read the room these days. Part of me expects utter doom and the other part has a hope to see God really do amazing things in my lifetime. It’s an awkward spot to be in, especially in Creepy Clown World. Do you think severe persecution is really that close?
God bless,
Heather
Heather, I was overstating it to make a point, but I do not think such persecution is impossible. The ardent secularists would certainly do that if they could.
Elections and Power Dynamics in America
Re: Red, Red Whine If you are willing, would you be able to explain the possible logic behind democrats having sabotaged voting machines in Maricopa county? As much as I would love to believe we didn’t lose fair and square, the takes claiming that this was some Democrat plot seem a bit absurd. Maricopa County tends blue and is really the Democrat’s only shot at holding Arizona. Why in the world would they sabotage those machines as opposed to those in any of the surrounding deep red counties? Seems a bit like shooting yourself in the foot in order to cheat in a footrace.
In any case, the votes were taken to be tabulated in ballot boxes by teams of rabid partisans, one Republican and one Democrat, and then counted by teams made up of both parties. You don’t think the republicans on these teams would be screaming bloody murder if there was any funny business?
This whole “we were cheated” narrative to me seems pretty childish, especially given we used to be the serious, sober minded party. Now just seems like we’re sore losers.
Joel
Joel, I think you make a good point on the voting machines. My big concern—besides mail-in voting—is the new normal of delayed election returns. Every day that goes by without a result is a day that should diminish our confidence in the honesty of the result. We used to count all the votes in one night, and other countries still do.
Red, Red Whine Doug, two lessons here, lessons that Evangelicals want to learn, are:
1. We’re not anything like a majority, never have been. America is not an Evangelical nation, not really even a Christian nation. You’ll seldom persuade the majority on a point of Christian principle. In our generation people don’t think they are sinners and they are not afraid of spiritual consequences; therein lies one of the immediate tasks of the church. And in fact that task needs to start in the church. Like you said.
2. Of late, Republicans just attract and promote some really ridiculous, obnoxious, some times outright bizarre candidates, and people notice. Evangelicals may be entertained and flattered, but the majority is not amused. Evangelicals need to recognize that, and keep it in mind when considering some likely future choices to be set before them.
Of course Evangelicals want to also keep in mind that they don’t absolutely *need* politics anyway.
John
John, you’re not wrong. The question in my mind is what a great reformation and revival would do to this situation. And how should we be preparing for that?
How Grim Is It?
I am writing in the spirit of “Believeth all things” regarding your historical understanding of this: “The point here is that nobody appears to care how anything looks. They care about winning, and are quite prepared to brazen out whatever it is. But it is possible to gain power and forfeit legitimacy at the same time . . .”
I am respectfully hoping and believing that your observation of the above is not epiphanous. The people in question have long operated under a “by any means necessary” protocol. Legitimacy is, for them, simply having jimmies (otherwise know as sprinkles for the reconstructed) on the ice cream cone. It is a feature readily jettisoned with explosive bolts if it stands in the way of gaining and maintaining power. They do not care “how it looks”; appearances are nothing more than a tool to be used pragmatically.
Their standard operation model is to break everything possible, steal/defraud every vote possible, take every vote (that does not go their way) to court, investigate everyone, jail anyone they can with fanfare, and deny and lie when confronted with the truth. It is what they do, and in broad daylight. Link.
These people are the children and grandchildren of the Ayers’, et al 60’s communists that have, as you alluded to, permeated every institution in this county.
I would add one more point of repentance, and for me it is the trip wire that signals a genuine sea change (I used a cement mixer to blend those two): When Christians remove their children from the government school system in accelerated fashion. Either incrementally or en masse, until that center of gravity shifts past the balance point, the current dynamic remains.
Gray
Gray, yes. Where our children are educated will be a central indicator.
That Would be Fun
Have you ever considered writing a modern day version of Pilgrim’s Progress? Considering the clever fiction you’ve already written, your knowledge of the modern world and its various pitfalls, along with your ability for both metaphor and biblical application, it would seem that this would be a work fit for your pen.
Lonnie
Lonnie, that would be fun. But it is an hours-in-the-day problem.
My question is about Ezekiel 38-39. The title “Blog and Mablog” got me rather interested in these chapters, but now I’m quite confused about what event these chapters are talking about.
In this article, you imply that they refer to a historical event (that serves as a type for Rev 20:8 etc).
There seems to be at least three problems with this (not that I have a better explanation to proffer):
1. As far as I know, there is no historical record of such an event involving so many nations (mentioned in Ezekiel 38:5-6) attacking Israel. There seems to have been an attack like this in 628 BC against Israel, but Ezekiel is prophesying in around 580 BC of a future event.
2. The chapters appear to be given too much prominence in Ezekiel for them to be merely a reference to some minor historical attack (by which I mean that it doesn’t warrant a mention in either 2 Chronicles or any other historical records). The language in these chapters is very ‘superlative’, indicating something quite significant. They come hard on the heels of chapter 36-37 which are monumentally important chapters, and are followed closely by chapters 40ff which are also extremely significant.
3. Ezek. 38:17 implies that this attack was prophesied earlier by other prophets. Which other prophesies exist of a historical attack like this?
Do you have answers to these problems, or could you recommend any resources where I could look to find answers?
Thanks for your time.
H
H, no, I don’t have detailed answers for you. My current view is that Ezekiel’s historical prophecy was fulfilled, but that the fulfillment was not recorded anywhere. This by itself should not be startling. History is crammed full of epic events that we don’t know anything about.
Another Kink in the Hose
“But I think a problem is developing when such an interest rises to the level of that “interest” routinely substituting for ordinary sexual intercourse. As foreplay, I think a couple should do what they both enjoy. The fundamental kink arrives when we try to get rid of God’s idea of a good finale.”
Along those same lines, it seems like one consequence of porn is that it becomes difficult to not conflate good, biblical sex with immoral, sinful sex, thereby tainting the good, biblical sex with a guilty conscience. Is it possible to overcome that consequence, and if so, how? Asking in the context of past hardcore porn and immorality that has been repented of and forsaken over a decade ago . . .
fsa
fsa, yes, I do believe it is possible. We are summoned to be transformed by the renewal of our minds (Rom. 12:1-2), and I believe the Spirit makes this possible. If there is a deep challenge associated with it, I would encourage you to make God’s design for sex your special study. If this is a big enemy, marshal all your forces.
Turning a Church Around
Before I proceed with the nitty gritty, permit me to thank you for your ministry. I found your videos during the covid craziness of 2020. And your wisdom and biblical application greatly helped me. Glory to God and a great deal of thanksgiving to you and yours!
I’m an early-thirties pastor of a SBC church who recently discovered the Bible actually expects believers to baptize their babies. And as luck would have it, my wife gave birth to our first child this year. I’m no longer convinced of congregational polity and, as much as a guy who has never attended a Presbyterian church can, I agree with Presbyterian polity. So, as a major contributor to my new-found convictions, I’m asking you for any advice, principles, and wisdom you’re willing to share as I navigate my family and the local church I lead. Since I’m new to this whole ask-Doug-anything thing, I’ve added more specifics below that may shed light on my bind.
My wife agrees with me 100%. Like me, she only knows the SBC and gets skittish thinking about starting fresh in a new denomination. She’s convinced of covenant succession and sees paedobaptism clears up a lot of questions we’ve raised as Baptists. We’re both willing (but not wishing) to start fresh while I find another vocation if need be. At the same time, I hesitate rushing my family into a new denomination. Or do we just say “Geronimo, Amen”?
Concerning the congregation I serve, I’ve only pastored here since late 2019. Historically, the church operated more on the Andy Stanley side of Baptist life than John Piper. The members were politically conservative while theologically liberal. Demographically, the members are retirees with a few recent empty-nesters and even fewer young families. Years before I arrived, women began leading the church through elbowing their husbands in the ribs. So, I’ve experienced more passive and indirect confrontation than direct.
Even so, God has brought about much change during the last 3 years. Now, only men lead during worship, we practice a bare-bones covenant renewal liturgy, we just started learning the Psalms, many are reading the Bible all the way through for the first time, and we’re reconsidering the donations we give to the SBC. Despite these significant reforms, we have few qualified deacons and no elders. Even though the church knows I’m a Calvinist, they avoid talking about it. And since my family is the youngest in the church, most ignore my instruction on basic biblical principles on the family.
So, on the one hand, I think it’s my responsibility to pull the congregation toward presbyterianism. I’ll put my cards on the table and pastor them through this as best I can. On the other hand, I have no elders to work with and few deacons willing to work. I know their frame and asking the congregation, as it is now, to change with me would feel like a betrayal (and reasonably so). I believe my only options after coming clean to the congregation are 1) offer reform and 2) offer aid in transition finding a Baptist pastor. Is this right? And do you have any specific instruction, correction, and direction? I appreciate whatever counsel you bring.
Joyfully,
Caleb
Caleb, I think your choices are right, and it sounds like your read of the situation is right. But from what you describe, what is going to happen is that you are going to help them find a Baptist pastor. If they surprise you, then you can lead them in a Presbyterian direction. But it is crucial that you do such a thing, if at all, honestly and above board.
Re:modern day version of Pilgrim’s Progress, there is this take on it, written by some of the fellas at the Babylon Bee. It’s a fun read.
“They talk much about love and soil and affection and heritage, but their chief characteristic is a crackling envy aimed at anybody who is smarter, wealthier, has a better looking wife, is more influential, or is better connected than they are. And after just a couple of days marinating in that attitude, they start talking ominously about the Jews.” My beef with Jeffrey Epstein, Victoria Nuland, Merrick Garland, Bankman-Fried, George Soros, Paul Wolfowitz……..is that they throw better cocktail parties. Kanye is envious too. Every year you become more of a coward and a grifter. As a result, your writing devolves… Read more »
So should I conclude that you don’t have a beef with Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Sonia Sotomayor, and Barack Obama?
Or else that in the case of one list, ethnicity is highly relevant to the situation, and for the other list, it’s not? If so, why would that be?
If literally every financial scandal involved a Jew, would you still consider ethnicity irrelevant to financial scandals? In other words, if someone came along and said, “Wow, every single time this happens, it’s a Jew involved,” would you tut-tut at that person for their bigotry and insist that “Jewishness” had nothing to do with it?
Edit: I’m not saying it’s actually literally every time, I’m just making a point.
Yes, because you haven’t told us what percentage of Jews are involved in financial scandals. Suppose for sake of argument that 100% of financial scandals involve Jews, but only 1% of Jews are involved in financial scandals. It’s interesting that only Jews are involved, but still, 99% of Jews aren’t involved, which means that any given Jew is only very very slightly more likely to be involved in a financial scandal than any given Gentile.
Most of the time, when someone tries to argue for group culpability, they’re asking the wrong question and looking at the wrong data points.
“Most of the time, when someone tries to argue for group culpability, they’re asking the wrong question and looking at the wrong data points.”
Just like silly bare CRT assertions? Oh wait, you believe those.
Of the four CRT points I listed, I’m sure you’ll be able to tell us what’s wrong with all four.
Is zielinski a Jewish name by any chance?
It’s actually Polish Catholic.
Since your point is counter-factual and mine is based on the actual facts, then I’ll stick with making my point based on the facts that DO exist.
You still need to answer the question I asked: if corruption exists among both Jews and non-Jews, why is Jewishness the salient factor, rather than corruption? Turning the question around and asking me what I’d do if the sun rose in the west is not the rhetorical slam-dunk you think it is.
You’ve missed the point. Suppose it’s 75% of cases, or 50%. Is there not a minimum amount of over-representation where you would say, “Wait a minute, this doesn’t look like a coincidence. There seems to be a pattern here with these people.” Your choice is either yes (the actual percentage doesn’t really matter), which at least grants the possibility that someone could (((notice))) without being in the wrong, or no, which would mean that, even in my counter-factual situation in which it was Jews 100% of the time, you’d have to continue to assume that such behavior had no innately… Read more »
It doesn’t matter what I WOULD say IF the situation were other than what it is. Given what it is, it is entirely unsound to root a problem in a particular ethnicity that is widely and frequently found across all ethnicities. It’s just irrational. To insist that the reason Jewish people do bad things because they’re Jewish is to privilege the desire to blame Jewishness over reason — not to mention being a denial of the most basic of Christian doctrines, that all men are sinners capable of the worst kinds of corruption. I don’t assume that there’s no innately… Read more »
But…there aren’t any Jews.
God destroyed them in 70 A.D., did He not? Not only is the Jewish religion gone, but God has also declared that being a child of Abraham has value only according to faith.
If being a Jew is neither a genealogical nor a religious fact–and neither can be–we are left only with “self-identity,” which has the staying power of a soap bubble.
Tribal vainglory is sin. Tribal animosity is sin. Directing either of those sins at a non-existent tribe carries the compounding trouble of also being stupid.
No, God did not “destroy” all jews in 70 AD. Where did you get that idea?
Jews we’re living all around the Mediterranean- from Spain to Persia, long before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
I’m puzzled at the apparent neglect of Romans 11 in this. Was God just sort of kidding when He promised that all Israel would be saved, that as their fall had been riches and life for the Gentiles, so their restoration would be even more impressive, that He who had cut off the cultivated olive branches to graft in the wild would also graft the cultivated branches back in? Or would you somehow argue that this was already fulfilled by AD 70? Sure, these and other passages are often used as pretexts for dispensationalism, but you have to do something… Read more »
Doug, there is a world of difference between an idea that a Marxist came up with, versus an idea that is itself a Marxist idea. There are numerous examples of this in the history of Christian theology: Martin Luther was a Christian; does that make his rabid anti-semitism a Christian idea? Dabney was a Christian; does that make white supremacy a Christian idea? I don’t think so. You have to distinguish ideas that are themselves founded on the premises of Marxism, or Christianity, from ideas that were merely the brainchild of someone who happened to be a Marxist or a… Read more »
Assuming all those ideas are mostly obviously true (I don’t), do they translate into the notion that a particular race categorically constitutes an oppressed class and another race the oppressor class, and this generally explains both history and the current state of affairs? If so, that inherently Marxist perspective is why CRT gets dismissed as Marxism.
John, I would not state it quite that way. I would say that human nature is such that whichever race and culture is the dominant one is going to badly treat everyone else; it’s what humans do. Had things worked out differently so that Africa conquered Europe rather than the other way around, I have no doubt that blacks would treat whites every bit as badly as whites have treated blacks. So it’s not that there’s anything inherent in being white; it’s that there’s something inherent in having power. And in this country, power is still disproportionately held by whites.
This, as you have stated it, is prejudging the dominant group. More proper would be to say that mistreating the weak will be a temptation for the strong. If you’re going to judge, you need to consider evidence. Strength is not evidence of guilt.
Kathleen, most whites do not hold power, and whites do not collectively constitute a monolithic whole such that a capacity held by some is shared with all in the category, so it is not quite accurate to say power is held by “whites”. If someone thinks it *is* so, whether they think it is something owing to “whiteness” – as CRT proponents imply, when they don’t outright state it – or is an accident of history, if they view life in terms of racial class conflict between white oppressor and minority oppressed their worldview is essentially Marxist, whether they know… Read more »
This is the most watered down rendition of CRT I have ever seen, as described by anyone, either for or against it. Even the most basic reading on the topic, say from Brittanica, will include a whole slew of more controversial ideas as well. Even so, there are significant holes in your seemingly simple four points. Unfalsifiable. The very premise is subjective. Even if it weren’t based on how some people “feel” in comparison to how other people “feel”, there is no concrete objective basis to determine the “dominant culture”. I’m a straight white Christian male. I’m in the majority… Read more »
Justin, it’s watered down in the same way that those who hate Christianity consider it watered down to not mention the Inquisition, the genocide of Native Americans, and clergy sexual abuse of children. By which I mean that your side typically presents the most extremist, the most radical, and the worst-light possible version of CRT. There are CRT proponents who take those extremist positions, but they are no more the entirety of CRT than a priestly pedophile is the entirety of Christianity. Perhaps you could be a little more charitable in being fair to the views of those you don’t… Read more »
“By which I mean that your side typically presents the most extremist, the most radical, and the worst-light possible version of CRT.” Which is why I specified that this is also watered down in comparison to what advocates of CRT present. I understand its much easier to respond to me if you selectively ignore what I say, but lying will not get you very far. “Perhaps you could be a little more charitable in being fair to the views of those you don’t agree with.” If you could point out any way in which I’ve been unfair without lying while… Read more »
OK, I am not wasting any time responding to someone who thinks that someone who sees things differently than he does is lying. Not everyone sees things the same way you do, and if you lack the maturity to understand that honest people can arrive at different conclusions, then you’re not worth my time. Good day.
“People who have always been part of the dominant race and culture tend to forget that minorities have different experiences than they do, and it’s easy for them to harbor subconscious biases as a result” Look at something besides skin color. When have Christians been a majority? Isn’t harboring a subconscious bias usually called envy, one of the seven deadly sins? “A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.” American Heritage Dictionary “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male… Read more »
Dave, I’m not ignoring you but I’m on deadline, so I’ll give you a more thorough response later tonight.
Dave, whether Christians have ever been a majority depends on how broadly one defines Christian, I suppose. Remember that your particular version of Christianity is the minority view within Christianity itself. But it doesn’t matter whether one’s minority status is based on skin color, religion, or vegetarianism, if you’re not in the majority, you quickly learn that laws and social customs were not designed with you in mind. Usually without the majority even thinking it through. It’s probably like being disabled and finding that you can’t open most doors, not because the majority harbors anti-disability hatred, but because you just… Read more »
“I’m a trial lawyer who spends most of my days with other trial lawyers;” It does not surprise me that you have never really studied Marxism or other such forms of government and do not recognize Marxism by Karl Marx. In my home town, a mid-30s professional overheard my wife and I discussing a constitutional issue. She asked how we were able to do so with authority. In her entire school education from 1st grade through college and later medical school, she never read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, nor any of the other documents… Read more »
I read a shelf of books on Marxism when I was in college, including both the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital. Communism is based on class, not race, although there is significant overlap: as a group, blacks do tend to be poorer than whites, so a lot of what Marx said about class applies to them, even if indirectly. I disagree with 90% of what Marx wrote, but one thing I do think he got right is that you don’t solve problems by treating the symptoms. But that does not mean that everyone who wants to treat root causes is… Read more »
If you take a moment to dust your books off again, then you will see that CRT is Marxist to the root. Take off the sugar coating and look at the objectives. If you want to treat root causes of worldly problems, you must turn to the Bible. Any other tool to dig to the bottom of problems will not work but instead will produce perverted answers. Only the Bible will resolve racial problems. If you read the Bible, you will note that skin color isn’t a determining factor, but instead the difference is between those who trust God and… Read more »
I’m not trying to be mean or sarcastic Kathleen. But just a challenge. Go through your post again and back up your points with bible verses (in context of course) and repost it. Because I think Doug will listen when the King speaks. (John 10:27) Hebrews 4:12-13 Otherwise we are just giving our opinions about men and women with clay feet. We may find that our problem isn’t with Doug or man, but with God himself. This world is for Christ. Colossians 1:15-23 Mary knew that (John 12: 1-8). If we keep putting men’s “ideas” above God’s word, that’s when… Read more »
Doug, No one’s denying your ability to notice when certain Jews behave badly, the problem is that you seem unable to connect their behavior to anything innate to their Jewishness, for example in recognizing how their subversive activities are often motivated by an intense desire to shape society in such a way that reflects their values (derived from high amounts of in-group particularism) and pathologies (eg. extreme paranoia over “another Shoah”).You’re right that Woodrow Wilson was not acting on behalf of Anglos, but you can’t just assume that’s always (or even typically) the case with powerful Jews, especially when they’re often… Read more »
It is past time for you to have a debate with a qualified ideological opponent on the topic of race and antisemitism. You constantly bear false witness against us, claiming we are idolaters of color who are envious of our Jewish betters. You have not once, in the two years I have followed you on this topic, honestly presented the arguments of the kinists, race realists, or even national socialists you loathe so deeply. In your most recent screed, you even assert that it is crazy to agree with anyone arguing the nazis had their good points. Do you really… Read more »
I think you would do well to heed a Jew who said ‘Father forgive them they don’t know what they do’.
See, this is the kind flippant, ignorant, disingenuous response that makes conversation nearly impossible. No educated Christian should ever repeat this nonsense, and men like Doug are responsible for the persistence of this ridiculous meme, because they certainly know better, but have done nothing to correct it. Rabbinic or talmudic judaism is a younger religion than Christianity. It bears no resemblance whatsoever to the religion of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, or Jesus. There is no temple, no sacrifice, no mercy seat, and no atonement in this satanic trash codified in the Talmud. Of course, you might be suggesting that Jesus was… Read more »
I was objecting to you repeating the ‘betrayers and murderers of Christ’ line regarding the Jews. They may have wanted his blood on them and their children, but I am inclined to think God heard the prayer for forgiveness uttered on the cross. I was recently horrified to see just how anti-semitic Luther was. Could have been Goebbels. No possible defence for his views on this. His sentiments were carried out during the NS period in Germany. Such thinking is something Christians need to repent of. Whether you like it or not salvation is of the Jews, and we non-Jews… Read more »
Did you even read my reply? What makes these people jews? Blood? Religion? Circumcision?
And did you read Luther yourself? How the heck do all these people across two thousand years keep coming to the same conclusion regarding jews anyway?
It is so sad to see the horrifyingly brainwashed state you people are in.
And did you read Luther yourself? I have seen the following quoted twice in the last few days. Luther on the Jews: First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden… Read more »
Yes, I’ve read Luther’s wonderful work on the Jews from cover to cover several times, as should you and all Christians struggling with this topic. He came to his conclusions after long interaction with them, witnessing and disputing out of love. The NSDAP pursued his prescriptions vis a vis the jews. Arbeit Macht Frei, you know? I’ve also read John Crysostum’s Against the Jews, and you should read it as well. The church fathers and the Apostles had plenty to say about how the Jews should be dealt with, and what type of people they were and are. Go back… Read more »
The NSDAP pursued his prescriptions vis a vis the jews. Arbeit Macht Frei, you know? I always draw the line at this. This German phrase adorned the entry to place where countless men women and children were murdered in a most appalling way. You would quite rightly face prosecution for this if you lived in Germany, as trivialising the holocaust is an offence. The protestant (Evangelisch) church had to do some serious re-thinking after 1945 considering their founder’s part in creating the conditions for the holocaust. If you were ever to embrace the Christian faith your heart of stone, which… Read more »
The holocaust is blood libel against Christians in general, and particularly against Germans. Auschwitz had a pool, an orchestra, a maternity ward, and a clinic. One of the first red pills on this topic I noticed was reading Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning, where he writes about working in the clinic. What do you need a clinic in a death camp for? If some jew sprains his ankle and can’t work, you toss him in the oven and get another one. Have you ever done the math on this 6 million number? 3.5 years or so, working 24/7 with… Read more »
You are either deceived , an evil liar, or both.
Why don’t you correct me. Show me the evidence. I’ve been through the holocaust museum’s website, it doesn’t address these issues very well. Did I lie about people being imprisoned or destroyed for questioning the narrative? In fact, what specific things am I deceived or lying about?
The fact that there were Jews who cooperated with the Germans doesn’t absolve you from your hatred. Your what-about-ism is the weakest of arguments.
Your screed is nothing more than hatred of a certain group of humans that you have chosen to dehumanize. You are a lost soul eaten up by that very same hatred.
The truth shall set you free. – Jesus
So, no, you have no argument. Sad, many such cases.
I don’t know if what we are dealing with here is an attention-seeking troll or someone who is monumentally ignorant.
An authentic believer would surely have an attitude towards the Jews more like Paul’s at the beginning of Rom 9. ‘Of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ’.
The holocaust is about the most documented event to have ever happened. Churchill described it as the greatest crime in the history of the world. British intelligence knew of during the war. Ultra decrypts. The Germans kept meticulous records of who was deported and when, now archived. I have met and heard the testimony of a Polish Jew who later became a pastor in Israel who lived through the Warsaw uprising. Was the footage of walking skeletons made at the end of the war produced in a studio? Such human suffering does not deserve to be trivialised, and certainly not… Read more »
>The holocaust is about the most documented event to have ever happened. Churchill described it as the greatest crime in the history of the world. Churchill described the initial reports he heard from Auschwitz this way, however, that camp was not liberated by, nor inspected by British or US troops. He did make this order: “The matter is of urgency, as of course, it is not possible to arrest the processes of decay in many cases. In view of this urgency, I have come to the conclusion that eight members of this House and two members of the House of… Read more »
DIP,
I’m sorry, but you are the embarrassment. Your hatred for Jews has no place in Christianity.
I don’t hate jews, and disputing war propaganda isn’t hate. You don’t love people by allowing them to heap sins upon themselves. You seem awfully confident for someone who knows so little.
I would never expect a genuine Christian to have so little discernment as to believe neo-Nazi propaganda.
David Irving was losing credibility as a serious historian when I was still at school, and that was a long time ago.
Bergen-Belsen was liberated by the British (I’ve been there) and Dachau by the Americans. Both camps amply demonstrated the barbaric cruely of the NS regime.
Incoherent, which is an apt moniker, has no interest in truth. H(S)e lives in fun house of mirrors.
Neither of you have refuted a single argument or claim I have made. Why do you believe people who lied about human lampshades and homicidal rollercoasters and masturbation machines and multicolored smoke and bears and eagles and infant skeet shooting competitions and all the rest? Answer me if I’m so obviously wrong, why did they tell all of these obvious and ridiculous lies about this event that is supposedly so sacrosanct that it cannot be questioned? Why do you take the side of people who, whenever they gain a sliver of power, they use it to undermine Christian civilization? What… Read more »
Hey, DIP, give it a rest. You are living in alternate reality. Good luck with that.
I don’t need rest, but I’ll leave you to your willful ignorance.
Neither camp was a death camp. Most of the suffering at both was a result of the allied bombing campaign. Speaking of which, what does Dresden or the other targets of firebombing say about the Allies’ barbaric cruelty? Or the starvation of German POWs? Or abandoning the East to the raping and pillaging of Soviet hordes? I’ve said repeatedly that atrocities were committed by the germans against the jews. So? America put the Japanese in camps and dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children. You seem to have quite a selective sense… Read more »
I do not like the tone Mr. DIP used, as I respect the man he was arguing with. But I would object to the characterization of Jesus as a Jew. The ethnic link between modern-day Jews and Hebrews/Israelites is tenuous, because people have converted in and out of Judaism over the years, and many Jews died in 70 AD, while the Jewish/Israelite Christians got out of town. As for religion, Jesus was only a Jew the way Harry Truman and Joe Manchin are, or were, democrats. He did not follow the Talmud, and criticized some things which became the Talmud.… Read more »
It is taking several hours for my comments to appear because every one has to be individually approved for some reason. As I point out elsewhere, if those comments ever show up, Doug has offered me no quarter, and I am offering him none. He is welcome to stop lying about his opponents any time, and to engage us directly and honestly as a Christian pastor should. Until then, I will call him what he is, a liar, a slanderer, and a bearer of false witness in defense of those who hate us and our Lord. If my tone is… Read more »
I would say you have understated what Wilson has done. I can understand that he is not willing to make the sacrifices that would be necessary to tell the truth on such issues. He could just keep his mouth shut. Instead he is actively speaking out in support of Globohomo for profit.
I hate to think this is true, but I have to watch a lot of ads on his YouTube channel, and there’s an awful lot of stuff he’s keeping behind that paywall.
I always wondered what kind of letters Paul sent his premium supporter. You know, the ones who paid the extra shekels to get his HOTTEST takes. I bet he really commanded some love and sacrifice in those epistles, not like the weak sauce stuff he gave away for free that we have now.
Re:Buford “‘When it’s blacks, it’s a gang; when it’s Italians, it’s a mob; when it’s Jews, it’s a coincidence and you should neeeeeever speak about it.’” They’re called gangs and the mob because they collectively commit crimes. The problem is that the criticism of these jews isn’t of crimes, its simply of being very successful any owning things. You don’t have to come up with an explanation for why you have a problem with Italians organizing to commit crimes and don’t have a problem with Jews NOT committing crimes because it is self explanatory. One is a crime. The more… Read more »
It is beyond frustrating to attempt a conversation when your opponent refuses to engage directly with your argument, but to instead set up strawmen and lie about your positions. The argument is not that it’s bad for media to be controlled by jews because they are jewish, but that jews use their control of media to advance an agenda which is harmful to whites and Christians, and that the agenda is inherently jewish in nature. Further, that not only are powerful jews engaging in this behavior, but that everyday regular jews help them run cover for it, and benefit from… Read more »
Could it be possible that Doug is not deliberately lying? Remember, he grew up right after World War II, when it was very uncool, to say the least, that Jews were bad. It was probably considered unpatriotic by some. So it may be very difficult for him to believe that all those things about Jews. I was always pro-Israel until I read a National Geographic article that indicated that the state of Israel was not good for Christians, it took a while for me to learn that the Jews, and not the Romans, or humanity as a whole, or God,… Read more »
Could it be possible that democrats aren’t deliberately cheating? I mean after all, they’ve been taught since they were kids that republicans are evil, selfish, racist monsters who can’t be allowed to wield power or black and brown people will be crushed into a powder and sprinkled on top of the ashes of LGBT people they burn to death in pits. How can they allow Republicans to win elections when they know that’s the outcome? Doug is not a 16 year old girl. He is not an uneducated, low impulse control negro on welfare in the inner city. He is… Read more »
I think a big part of this is that Christians want to be seen as good people. If the definition of a good person changes through mass media and education then the Christian will adapt his beliefs to suit. A Protestant Christian leader would, of course, have to be gooder than most. A well read Christian should have some immunity through his communion with the universal church. Wilson really can’t attack us without attacking Christians (or anyone capable of rational thought) throughout the ages. In such an evil age you might expect actual persecution of the Church but this hasn’t… Read more »
I was raised by my parents and the Southern Baptist church with a strange philosemitism. To the extent that I was taught that Jews didn’t have to have faith in Christ for salvation. Profoundly unbiblical. Many also said that anyone who went against Jews or the modern state of Israel would be cursed by God. It took a lot to bring me around the what I believe today. Something supernatural does appear to be playing out with the Jewish people but it’s pretty much the opposite of what I would have expected based on my upbringing.
Kathleen: “Um, no. The progressive left did not give us slavery and Jim Crow. Those are national sins…” Um, no. Slavery was the norm worldwide until the 19th century, when Great Britain then the United States abolished it — the latter after the bloodiest war in its history. The people who fought to keep slavery in the United States were Democrats. Jim Crow was a Democrat sin, to punish blacks for the mortal sin of having been freed by the Republicans. Kathleen: “We can discuss what that repentance should look like…” So we shall. Repentance should look like the Democrat… Read more »
fp, like the peace of God, your comments pass all understanding. Is there anything you think isn’t the fault of Democrats? The common cold, maybe, or last week’s earthquake, or maybe the recent flooding in Pakistan? Anything at all that you think isn’t Nancy Pelosi’s fault?
We all know Pelosi is old, but you blaming her for Jim Crow et al, is a bit farfetched.
I don’t think she was even in office then.
I didn’t blame Pelosi for Jim Crow. Technically, neither did fp, although his comments came closer. But it’s a little silly to blame Democrats for slavery and Jim Crow because the Democratic Party of 1850 and the Democratic Party of 2022 look nothing alike. None of those Dixiecrats would be welcome in the Democratic Party of today, and if they all came back from the dead, today they would mostly be voting Republican.
Thank you for correcting “fp”. His comment displayed an appalling ignorance of US history.
On another note, what’s with all of the anti-semitic comments?
Jon, This is what far-left Wikipedia has to say about Jim Crow: The Jim Crow laws were state and local laws enforcing racial segregation in the Southern United States. Other areas of the United States were affected by formal and informal policies of segregation as well, but many states outside the South had adopted laws, beginning in the late 19th century, banning discrimination in public accommodations and voting. Southern [Jim Crow] laws were enacted in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by white Southern Democrat-dominated state legislatures to disenfranchise and remove political and economic gains made by African Americans… Read more »
Kathleen Liezinski: “None of those Dixiecrats would be welcome in the Democratic Party of today, and if they all came back from the dead, today they would mostly be voting Republican.” Is that the story you Democrats tell each other around the campfire, how you’ve been clean and pure as the wind-driven snow ever since those dastardly Republicans hatched their nefarious “Southern Strategy” and stole all your racists? Never mind the fact that it wasn’t until 1994 that Republicans held a majority of the 11 confederate states’ congressional seats and that the Republicans only started holding those state legislatures in… Read more »
Look it up. Biden has the most diverse administration in history. You don’t have to like it, but it’s still a fact.
Now if you’re looking for a recent example of Presidential Racism you can look no further than this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
You need a refresher course in US history.
Lol you guys are really here arguing over which mainstream political party is the racist one.
A racist should never throw stones in a glass house.
It’s just really funny to see you guys scramble to be the least racist. There are no black people or jews here to approve of your virtue signaling, you’re doing it entirely for your own glory. What do you get out of this? Rethuglicans are the real racists! Nuh-uh it’s the Demonrats!
Meanwhile, those parties are run by elites who never give either party’s base what they want. It’s like watching Browns and Bengals fans argue over who has the better football team haha
It’s called Making the Enemy Live Up to His Own Rules. Alinsky #4. Perhaps you’ve heard of it. I really don’t care if some nitwit calls me a racist; the term’s been overused and is therefore meaningless. I simply enjoy throwing the left’s crap back in their Klan-hooded faces. Contra your opinion, I, as a card-carrying member of the Republican base, got a lot of what I wanted from the Republican Trump administration. The loony Democrat base, like Liezinski with her garbage cult of CRT above, has gotten a lot of what it wants and keeps agitating for more. I’m… Read more »
“But Twump! But Twump!”
So utterly predictable. And boring. Can’t you get any better material?
Katie Hobbs, Democrat, had a “diverse” workforce when she was an Arizona state senator — didn’t stop her from paying the black women considerably less than the white males for the same work.
You Democrats have a real problem with race. Always have, always will.
On another note, you seem to hate all Republicans, especially Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, and Kari Lake. That’s a real shame. Jesus taught to love your enemies.
I’m not a Democrat. Never have been.
Your posts are on the level of an 8th grader in full blown puberty.
I suggest some night school courses at the local JuCo. Who knows, maybe you’ll meet a co-ed who will straighten you out.
Best of luck in the future!
Look, I get it: Admitting you’re a Democrat nowadays is embarrassing, especially considering that somewhere in America, there’s a little girl whose mother is a stripper, whose daddy is a junkie, and whose grandpappy is President of the United States.
Besides, I already have a college degree. Straightened out many a co-ed along the way.
Now, go crack open a history book — and not one written by ideologues like Howard Zinn or Nikole Hannah-Jones. You might learn a thing or two.
On another note. You seem hate all Democrats, and especially Joe Biden, Kamala Harris & Pete Buttigieg.
That’s a real shame. Jesus taught to love our enemies.
Top billing! Yay me, I guess. But look, this isn’t difficult. 1: Are there such things as ethnic mafias? Yes or no. no => eat fewer paint chips yes => see #2 2: Do Jews in media and banking behave like an ethnic mafia? Yes or no. no = eat fewer paint chips yes => see #3 3: Do Jews outside of media and banking generally support the aforementioned ethnic mafia (hint: see voting and donation statistics)? Yes or no. no = eat fewer paint chips yes = see #4 4: Are the specific patterns of misbehavior of said ethnic… Read more »
Maybe Doug should invite you on his vlog to discuss this issue, since he is apparently incapable of stating his opponents positions honestly, and he claims you have misunderstood his. It’s past time that Doug deal with this issue in an honest and Christ-like manner, rather than behaving like a pharisee.
I don’t think I’d ever go on a vlog, but I’d be happy for a back-and-forth, starting with the aforementioned yes-or-no questions. I won’t hold my breath waiting for the invitation, though. tbf, I don’t blame Doug that much for it. I know too many people, myself included, who took a decade or more to realize that yeah, there really was something more than irrational hatred behind ‘the JQ’, and spent much of the interim as seemingly impenetrable to the facts and hostile towards anyone speaking them as he currently is. If he came around to see that Federal Vision… Read more »
I commend your charity, but here we are, Christians ruled by jews with Christian pastors as commissars keeping us in line. Doug could at least do us all the favor of shutting up and letting us fight the battles he won’t, but instead he chooses to attack us with lies and slander.
I’m sure Doug would never lower himself to publicly conversing with some internet rando on his monetized YouTube channel, but he could certainly at least invite a serious person to educate him privately and quit lying about us.
After the latest…I’m sorry to say this, but you were right, and my charity really was misplaced. Or Wilson warrants the same charity and consideration he extends Thomas Achord.
When words are many transgression is not lacking.
It’s funny that you are trying to use this as a dig against another commenter when Doug is so incredibly verbose.
As a Moldbug completist, I have a pretty high tolerance for self-indulgent rhetoric but I think Wilson’s writing is terrible. He uses style and lame attempts at humor to cover for poor critical thinking and a general moral cowardice. He can only settle down into clear writing when he gets to the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin stuff.
Wilson’s piece contains multiple elements of Critical Race Theory that could have been pulled directly from Robin DiAngelo. 1. White people don’t exist (anyone got a link to Wilson saying Bantus and Igbo exist but there are no such thing as “black people”). 2. White people (attacked and dispossessed for decades) who speak out or act collectively in their own defense are just envious. I think the term he’s looking for is “white fragility”. 3. White people have no legitimate political interests. 4. Our grandfathers were the original antifascists. My grandfather fought in the Pacific but calling him race realist… Read more »
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Caleb, I think your choices are right, and it sounds like your read of the situation is right. But from what you describe, what is going to happen is that you are going to help them find a Baptist pastor. If they surprise you, then you can lead them in a Presbyterian direction. But it is crucial that you do such a thing, if at all, honestly and above board.
hiCaleb, I think your choices are right, and it sounds like your read of the situation is right. But from what you describe, what is going to happen is that you are going to help them find a Baptist pastor. If they surprise you, then you can lead them in a Presbyterian direction. But it is crucial that you do such a thing, if at all, honestly and above board.
The US constitution only specifically names one racial group and they are mentioned twice. That is American Indians. State governments do not as a rule like the existence of Tribes as legal entities.
Reposted from YouTube, as unlike Doug, I am constantly censored by the ruling power structure, and cannot guarantee my message reaches its intended target. Reposted in this thread since Doug didn’t open comments on his latest piece, wherein he attacks me directly, despite not allowing me an opportunity to respond on equal footing (kind of like what the, well you know, what those people do) >My actual correspondent will complain that when I make up ludicrous examples like that one, I am creating a caricature that does not fairly represent him or his colleagues. “Yeah, there may be some people… Read more »
Just to continue to clarify my points, Doug takes special pleasure in mocking and encouraging the abuse of poor white trash who have no opportunity to work good jobs or get pretty wives. These victims of boomer capitalism, whose jobs were offshored in the name of quarterly profits to pump up boomer retirement portfolios and suburban property values, are relegated to living in squalor, force fed opiates by boomer pharmaceutical executives and boomer doctors looking to build their 4th lakehouse in Coeur d’Alene. Meanwhile, respectable, system supporting boomers like Doug live in all white paradises and wear sweater vests opining… Read more »
Would it help to talk about it?
I am talking about it.
Thank you DIP. Godspeed to you.
Today’s letters post is redirecting to an old post.