Letters of the New Dawn 2023

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Apalled and Aghast

I am appalled. I am aghast. I got excited that you listed ‘Amie’ as a song you like. But then I see that it’s by Counting Crows?!? C’mon man! Pure Prairie League or nothing. It’d be like if you listed ‘Wagon Wheel’ as a favorite song, but you said you prefer the new Darrius Rucker version instead of the original Old Crow Medicine Show one. Covers are a waste. Stick with the originals.

Best Wishes

Nate

Ah, Nate, but your reductio doesn’t work if I like Rucker also, right? I am catholic about this. I like all the songs.

Thanks, Working on It

I hope I’m not the only one who tells you this, but you should continue to write more of your fiction novels. They are always enjoyable.

AH

AH, thanks. I am chipping away at it, more or less.

Exactly So

“We are a project that fights back, that gets underfoot, that tries to unravel what the Spirit is knitting.” Re: the section that vividly describes us as paintings that keep playing Slip-n-Slide across God’s palette in a foolish attempt to improve His work of art…it reminded me of Corrie ten Boom’s illustration of God weaving the beautiful tapestry of our lives. Only, we see it from the underside, where the strings cross-cross and tangle in ways that sometimes provide hints of what the finished work will be but too often only look like a jumbled mess. If I may extend her metaphor and dovetail it with yours, the temptation is to snip the strings and rearrange the perceived chaos into the weave that we, in our misguided thinking, believe God is trying to create. But all this does is cause the strings to unravel. Both are poignant reminders that we really ought to stop being so retardant.

Andy

Andy, yes. And the glorious thing is that God even brings glory out of our obtuseness, like a master carpenter who specializes in working with gnarled wood.

Man Rampant?

Thank you for your ministry. I was wondering, is there another Man Rampant in the works? Are you familiar with Michael O’Fallon? He has a ministry/organization called Sovereign Nations. He is a friend of Dr. White apparently and close friend of James Lindsay, the man who has been pivotal in exposing all of the Marxist ideologies from CRT to Queer Theory, etc, etc . . . this ties into my first question about Man Rampant, it would be a very interesting interview with either of those men.

Anyhow, thanks again. May the Lord continue to bless and further the kingdom through your labors.

Jeremy

Jeremy, thanks. Yes, I have read Lindsay’s book, and follow O’Fallon on Twitter. Thanks for the MR suggestion, and another season is in the works.

Messiah ben Joseph

Will you please explain what is so astonishing about “Messiah ben Joseph” . . . i.e. why it is so much more than “merely” Joseph being a Type of Christ?

I read your article twice, and looked at the description/reviews on Amazon, and totally don’t understand what the (reverently) “big deal” is.

Would you please go into a some more detail to explain what is so “new” and astonishing about this book/concept?

Thanks!

Robert

Robert, yes, there are several things. I knew that Joseph was a type of Christ, but this is stronger. There are several explicit prophecies, one from Jacob and the other from Moses, that there would be an Ephraimite messiah who would rule the world. Those prophesies are right on the surface of the text, and I, having read them multiple times, still missed the import. And the rabbis didn’t miss the import, and were discussing Messiah ben Joseph for centuries. But they missed another thing—keeping what they knew from the Christians because of how awkward it would be to point out that the Messiah needed to have a father named Joseph.

Birth Control Information

I am reaching out to you to request that you read Does the Birth Control Pill Cause Abortions written by Randy Alcorn, and if you would publicly address this topic. I feel many Christains are awfully deceived by the birth control industry and I feel that this message needs to get out to as many people as possible.

Thank you,

Dustin

Dustin, thanks for the link. Here is what I have written on it to date.

Singleness as Affliction

Singleness as Affliction: This article was so helpful and made me feel so much better about my displeasure with being single. Thank you so much for your encouragement, Pastor Doug!

I was wondering if you have any advice for a 32-year-old man longing for marriage and a family, but hasn’t had any luck yet. I’ve been on several dates with Christian women, mostly off of Christian dating apps, and have either been rejected or just wasn’t feeling it myself. Plus, I live in CA so solid churches with godly young women devoted to living biblically are scarce. I pray often that this season of singleness would end, but that doesn’t seem likely to happen anytime in the near future. I don’t look at porn and I steer clear of all situations that would lead me into sexual immorality, but the temptation to look upon women with lust is so strong. I’m trying to find a church that is biblically sound, but most of them that are don’t really have an abundant demographic of young single women. What do you think I should do? Am I wrong to be seeking a wife? Should I try harder to put it out of my mind and let it happen when it happens? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your ministry. It has been such a huge and impactful influence on my walk with the Lord! God bless!

Matthew

Matthew, don’t try to put it out of your mind. Use that energy to pursue a wife, or to pursue a better location for pursuing a wife. If your vocation permits, move to a place where more marriageable women are. If you can’t do that, take frequently trips there.

On Avoiding Romantic Reverie

What advice would you give on whether or not to pursue a woman who is faithful to the Lord and exhibits qualities one would look for in a future wife and mother of your children, and is even attractive, but you do not feel “compelled,” “infatuated,” “fallen in love,” “butterflies in stomach,” or any other emotional designation? I keep hearing people respond to this question by saying that I’d be settling and would live to regret it, but I can’t help but wonder if a woman of such admirable qualities is so rare that I should just pursue her and let whatever feelings come about later.

Daniel

Daniel, it is obvious hard me to say from up here in the cheap seats, but my inclination would be to encourage you to pursue her. Those missing emotions are often wonderful, and lead people to make a good choice for marriage, but they also frequently serve as an emotional fog bank in which unhappy souls run aground. Character is more important than “personality,” and if she is godly and attractive, and you are not sixteen, then I would encourage it.

A Pleasure Question

A few days ago he was talking with a brother about the goodness of pleasure, as a lawful use, of creation (according to John Calvin comments in his comment on Genesis). and this friend told me that the commandment to bear fruit and populate the earth also carries a good dose of pleasure and joy! to which I replied: imagine how much, that I even hope to bear fruit in the new earth in the resurrection! … I ask: what do you think of my wish, will it be possible?

The fact of sin does not, I believe, take away the mandate and the goodness of having children, unless one believes that having children without the pain of childbirth is theological folly.

PS: sorry for the grammar, I use google translate, thank God for it!

Dante

Dante, if I understand your question, it is whether there will be procreation in the resurrection. The answer that Jesus gives is no (Matt. 22:30). Our mistake is in assuming that this entails a necessary downgrade, when it actually points to a world where everything is richer and deeper and better.

A Work in Progress

Despite the fact that in introducing “A Brief Introductory Glossary . . .”, you had hoped for “a good bit of discussion,” I do not recall reading a single letter regarding that post in the following month. Please stay true to your word.

Nathan

Nathan, yes. I am currently working on a book addressing the whole subject, and bits and pieces of that book will appear here.

The Whole Bible

First off, my deepest thanks for your teaching; it has been incredibly helpful to me as a husband, father, and child of God. You’re doing great work and it is yielding beautiful fruit all over the world. Please, keep it up for as long as you can.

Second, many weeks back one of your readers wrote to ask if you knew of any works covering each of the books of the Bible at a high level. I have one to recommend highly: a sermon series called Route 66 (finding Jesus in each book of the Bible), by Paul Viggiano, pastor of Branch of Hope OPC (which hosted the recent Bahnsen conference you spoke at). There’s one roughly 45 minute sermon per book and they can be found here:

Lastly, I recently decided to refer to spankings as “percussive sanctification” and wanted to share the turn of phrase for critique and/or mutual enjoyment.

In Christ,

Brent

Brent, great phrase. And in addition to that sermon series, there is now a Route 66 book, which I picked up at the conference.

Pale Horse

I just finished reading “N T Wright Rides a Pale Horse.” Very good. I hope you sent him a complimentary copy!

dj

dj, thanks. Alas, we don’t have his contact info.

Concupiscence

I’m concerned about an answer you gave to a question on your August 1 series of letters.

Q: What are your beliefs on concupiscence, and specifically, as it pertains to homosexuality?

Noah

A: Noah, I believe that the stirrings of such desire are temptation, to be resisted but not confessed, and that indulgence and expression of such desire is to be confessed to God as sin. Under no circumstances should it be made an aspect of your identity.

Likewise, you gave a similar answer to a question at the Sexual by Design Q&A, at time stamp 1:01:05:

These things were brought out in a recent episode of “Conversations That Matter” with Jon Harris:

Why do you say that sodomite desire falls under temptation? Are you not saying the same thing as Sam Allberry and the Revoice controversy? James tells us that unnatural desire is sinful, because it breeds sin, which leads to death when it is fully formed. Is it not rather true that the temptation precedes the desire? In other words, the desire or the stirring thereof is not the same as the temptation. Both the desire and the action of sodomy are unnatural and should be mortified, killed, not just the action. Wouldn’t you agree? Will you take Jared Moore’s public call for repentance seriously? Are you not at this moment outside of orthodoxy for saying that it is acceptable for a Christian to have sinful desires without confessing them?

On another note, there was a part of “Ride Sally Ride” where Asahel kissed his girlfriend at her baptism, before they were married. That shocked me, considering your very strong stance against stirring up the desire for fornication with a young woman through physical affection and compromising situations, as you outlined in “Her Hand in Marriage”.

I hope you’re just being inconsistent. Please consider what I’ve said and retract these convictions.

CR

CR, I am happy to take Jared Moore’s call as a call for clarification, and to take that seriously, but I don’t take the call for repentance seriously. My blog post tomorrow morning is going to discuss this question thoroughly, and I hope it will put this misunderstanding (and misrepresentation) to rest. And as far as the kiss goes, please remember that he asked her father first.

A Question of Timing

In the case where one spouse commits adultery, confesses and repents, and establishes a track record of genuine repentance and a new way of life, how long is the window open for the other spouse to have biblical grounds to seek a divorce? At what point does it transition from “because of what the offender did this situation is un-redeemable and you are free to seek a divorce” to “your spouse is a changed and reconciled individual and you are just keeping this in your back pocket so a divorce at this point would be sinful?”

FO

FO, the way we have handled in the past would be along these lines. If a spouse has cheated, the spouse sinned against has the option of divorce. Assuming the adulterer is repentant, we work through this with both. What we do is urge the innocent party to not make their decision on the spur of the moment, but rather to wait until the situation is somewhat settled. This process takes a few months. We walk them through that decision-making time, and when they come to their decision, we help them to stand by it, whichever it is. But after that time, if the innocent party decides to save the marriage, she doesn’t have a divorce option in her back pocket that she can pull out five years later when he complains about her cooking.

Hades, Hell, and So On

I have a friend who has been talking about where Jesus went when He died on the cross, she says He went to hell . . . do you believe that He went to Hell Or Heaven?

It says “And He answered him, Truly I tell you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise” (Luke‬ ‭23‬:‭43‬ ‭AMPC‬‬). But she argued that it was actually, I tell you today, you will be with Me in Paradise, meaning eventually, not TODAY

Thank you!

In Christ,

Eve

Eve, the short answer is that Paradise was located across the chasm from Tartarus, and was called Abraham’s bosom. Jesus said He was going to spend three days and three nights “in the heart of the earth,” which is where Paradise therefore was. But He was not in Hell, but rather in a portion of Hades. More below.

Admonishing the Snark

Regime Dictionaries in Clown World

Pastor: Well written: “and therefore He is immutably loving. Thus any ethical system based on Him will reflect those characteristics.” AMEN! Now, please consider reflecting this immutable love more often and in ways other than polemics. Maybe a 5:1 non-polemic to polemic ratio? 10:1? By the Spirit, we would all benefit and the Kingdom would advance. Love, Build! Godspeed,

Christian

Christian, this might astonish you, but I would be more than happy with a 10:1 ratio. And that is actually around where I think it is.

Daniel’s Weeks

I’ve been reading through Chilton’s “Days of Vengeance”. In the Introduction he argues for the early date of Revelation, and the entire New Testament canon, from the position that Daniel 9:24 prophesies the ending of the canon when it says that it seals up vision and prophecy. It would seem that this would put the end of the seventy weeks of years at 70 AD. I am partial to the idea of the canon being completed by 70 AD, and I read his source with pretty hearty agreement with most of the internal evidence suggesting this. However, I am still not sure how to count the weeks of years. It seems that a very literal 490 would put you at roughly 34 AD. At which time there is no judgment that would look like the abomination of desolation. However, to put the last “half week” off until 66 AD creates a gap that is not stated by the text of Daniel. That being said, there are multiple passages in Revelation that suggest that the 3.5 years was at the time of judgement such as 12:14. It also seems implied by the Olivet Discourse, Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 9:24-27. This would put approximately 40 years between the first 3.5 years and the last 3.5 years of the last week of Daniel. Which would parallel the concept of judgement that should lead to repentance after the Exodus. The question is, where do you place the last half week, and why. Thanks.

Jeremy

Jeremy, I have not done sufficient work on this to pronounce dogmatically, so keep that in mind. I incline toward the view that Daniel’s weeks end with the cutting off of the Messiah. I am uncomfortable with gaps caused by the prophetic clock stopping. That said, I also believe that the canon was complete prior to 70 A.D.

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Robert
Robert
10 months ago

Pastor Wilson,

Thank you for answering my letter about “Messiah ben Joseph”.
ha, but I am still missing it….

  • Is the main import of this that Mary’s husband’s name was “Joseph”? (who is of the tribe of Judah(?))
  • And how does Joseph/Ephraim come to bear on Jesus of Nazareth who was humanly from the line of David (of the tribe of Judah)… and had nothing to do (in a sense) with the tribe of Joseph/Ephraim?

Thanks if you have time to answer this.

My Portion Forever
My Portion Forever
10 months ago
Reply to  Robert

It also seems a bit to “nice” to me and not meaningful enough that Jesus’ earthly father was named Joseph. Not an Ephraimite!

Robert
Robert
10 months ago

yeah, good point/distinction.

Rafael
Rafael
10 months ago
Reply to  Robert

I guess the point is that Christ unites two seemingly contradictory profecies in one person (kinda like the conquering Messiah and the suffering servant). Talmudic jews are often mystified/confused by this seeming contradiction (see example at https://youtu.be/D8jf_PTSY_Y?t=385) and the point is that Christ is at the same time the king from the tribe of Judah and the Messiah son of Joseph.

Robert
Robert
10 months ago
Reply to  Rafael

Thanks!

Ken B
Ken B
10 months ago

Jeremy – John A T Robinson wrote a book called Redating the New Testament. Originally fairly evangelical I believe, his training for the Church of England ministry pushed him into a more liberal frame of mind. Unfortunately something not uncommon in the C of E. Regarding the book he asked himself why the destruction of Jerusalem was missing from the NT except as something still future. So he embarked on a study to see if it is feasable that the entire NT was written before AD 70. He concluded that it was. This went strongly against the theological thought of… Read more »

Jsm
Jsm
10 months ago

Yeah Nate, spot on about covers. The original song “hurt” by Nine Inch Nails is so much better than Johnny Cash’s version. 😬

Jon
Jon
10 months ago
Reply to  Jsm

Not according to Reznor. Look it up.

Jsm
Jsm
10 months ago
Reply to  Jon

That was called sarcasm. Covers can greatly improve on the original.

Zeph
Zeph
10 months ago

Dante, the procreation after death thing comes from LDS theology, not the Bible.

Last edited 10 months ago by Zeph
Kristina
Kristina
10 months ago

Daniel mentioned lack of romantic attraction, not sexual attraction. But given what Pastor has said in the past about not getting married if “the combustible materials” aren’t there, maybe he should consider that too?

Nathan Ryan James
Nathan Ryan James
10 months ago
Reply to  Kristina

When it comes to such things, Americans are about 100x too romantic. Most men could marry most women. Otherwise humanity would have gone extinct in pre-modern times.

Kristina
Kristina
10 months ago

I drew a distinction between “romantic” and “does he want to have sex with her.” Not the same thing at all.

Nathan Ryan James
Nathan Ryan James
10 months ago
Reply to  Kristina

Maybe I don’t follow you.

Kristina
Kristina
10 months ago

I’ll try again. Daniel wrote he does not have romantic feelings for this woman he’s considering marrying. Okay. What he did NOT say is whether he has any desire to have sex with this woman he’s considering marrying. So we don’t know where he is on that. BUT, based on some things Pastor has written in the past, IF Daniel has no desire to have sex with this woman, THAT is what should stop Daniel from proposing to her, not the lack of romantic feelings. So Daniel should be considering that question, if he isn’t (and we don’t know if… Read more »

Nathan Ryan James
Nathan Ryan James
10 months ago
Reply to  Kristina

I misunderstood you. I would take his statement that she is attractive as the answer to that question.

Kristina
Kristina
10 months ago

Thanks! Sometimes, I admit, I don’t understand Man-Speak, and require translators. :)

Jane
Jane
10 months ago

If lack of contact information is your only excuse for not sending a copy of the piece to Bishop Wright, that can be solved. The linked page contains his e-mail address, and I assume on the same site a mailing address for the university could be found, whereby anything sent to him would get there sooner or later. ;-)

https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/divinity/people/ntw2

Nathan
Nathan
10 months ago

That is fair enough. I shall stay tuned to this blog, and I might even buy the book. Although you have redacted the rest of my letter, I now know that you have read it, and therefore, I have greater hope that the specific concerns I have raised will be addressed in future writings.