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Ride Sally Responses

So, I just wanted to say, I read Ride, Sally, Ride over the weekend, and it was so, so good. Like really good. I read Flags Out Front a couple months ago, and have a particular fondness for those characters, so I wasn’t sure how RSR would hit me (especially with an unconventional plot set-up). But after reading it, I really think Ace & Stephanie, etc, are top notch. Thanks so much for a great read.

One thing I have noticed in your fiction is how often you make things “work out” with complex situations. Whether a character is in a confused state of mind, in a relational bind, or a life & death situation, it all just sort of falls into place, and God makes things click. I like this style a lot (especially when it comes to a character’s salvation), and it makes me wonder how often we miss God doing just that in the realities of our own day-to-day lives, how His hand (and plot lines) are evident in my own story, yet I am not looking for it, and so I miss it.

Thanks much for a good read, a challenge for my own cultural engagement, and a reminder that God is always writing a story in our own lives. Bless you. And keep up the great writing.

Scott

Scott, thanks very much.

A Merch Suggestion

Will NSA college make a “Hey Wokey McWokeFace” T-Shirt? You could have it so that “Hey Wokey McWokeFace” on the front and “All Black Lives Matter” on the back with # AbolishAbortion.

Thanks,

Ben

Ben, thanks. Keep passing on the ideas.

Back to Sally

God’s timing truly is astounding. Just 3 weeks ago, acquaintances of mine were outraged that anyone would use “such terms and descriptions” as you have in Ride, Sally, Ride to try and shock people awake to the perversion of our society.

Some of these same acquaintances are now loudly proclaiming that anyone who doesn’t see how “Cuties” was using shocking imagery to wake us up to the perversion of society, and is therefore admirable, if a bit nauseating, is a philistine and a prude.

Kevin

Kevin, ain’t it odd?

I haven’t read the book and don’t intend to, but I hope by coarse language you don’t mean the sinful ones. Taking God’s name in vain and pornographic words are both examples that should never be used by Christians in public. I’ll never forget when Leithart used the f-word many times in a review of the pornographic book, Lady Chatterly’s Lover. Under pressure later he munged it, but it still shows the incredible ego that some have that they can play with fire and not be burned.

Lance

Lance, two things. First, Christian liberty is not the same thing as “anything goes.” Paul is very clear that our language is to be disciplined and holy. But the second thing is just as important — the standard of holiness is to be Scripture, and not a standard of etiquette set by our great-grandmothers.

What Happens After Death

I would be delighted to have the phrase “meaningless concourse of atoms” appear in my eulogy, especially because it might actually jar one or two of my unsaved relatives out of their perpetual slumber. Bravo.

Tom

Tom, thanks. And thank God that we are not such meaningless concourses.

Politics and Such

Do you have any recommendations for when/why a pastor can be political? I recently cried foul on the Obamas (and others tied to Netflix) for remaining silent about Netflix’s “Cuties” film. And then came the darts. I was told “just stick to preaching” etc. Apparently questioning the Obamas is not acceptable. The idols of our day. I thoroughly enjoy your content.

Matthew

Matthew, that is like telling John the Baptist to “stick to preaching” because he went so far as to mention Herodias.

The David French Issue

Re: David French and the Train that Already Left the Station. I appreciated your gracious tone toward David French. At times, it is difficult for me to have such a tone when reflecting on what we might call the David French branch of the PCA. Not that he is the leader of this group. I don’t think he is an elder, but he does seem to speak for this group and to this group. My challenge is that I believe many of this group are doing significant harm to the PCA and church catholic. Sorta like the harm Chamberlain did to England in the thirties, except they are still doing it AFTER the war has broken out. I trust that these men, having been examined/ordained in the PCA, are mostly Christians. So that means they are not God’s enemies. But it sure seems at times as if they are aiding and abetting the enemy in their blindness. I understand that like Edmund’s brother and sisters we are to earnestly desire their repentance. Yet it seems to me that that doesn’t rule out stronger, or perhaps more direct, language than you used here is appropriate in addressing what they are doing. How does one balance all this in the pursuit of peace and purity, particularly within one’s own congregation?

Bill

Bill, I do take your point, and the point of the letters below. I see what you are saying. I take the approach I do because people I respect have a genuine respect for David.

I subscribed to David French’s writings after I heard him on CrossPolitic. I was looking forward to reading the thoughts of an accomplished writer as he applied biblical thinking to current events. I won’t be renewing my subscription.

After his post on Kyle Rittenhouse, his very next post was ‘Why Is So Much Diversity Training Radical and Weird?’ Perhaps because Christians have allowed the violation of the social compact, and have not been faithful in standing up to said violations? Can he not see the connection?

It’s not exactly surprising that David French would go the direction he did on the social compact. His writings clearly lean toward the ‘never Trump’ camp – always complaining, taking offense over minor issues, and seldom giving Trump credit when it is deserved (and then only begrudgingly). So taking issue with law and order is a shot at Trump supporters, and he attempted to use a theological justification for it.

While I have never met David French, I will be cancelling my subscription to him because his theology is bad. Actually, that’s not quite correct. His theology is thin , , , thin and brittle. He argues conservative principles quite convincingly, until you dig down a little and realize there is nothing in his theology to support his claims. He winds up attempting to use worldly wisdom to support his stance instead of biblical wisdom, and poof — it vanishes for lack of substance.

Thanks for another insightful and educational post, as together we joyfully and intentionally expand the Kingdom of God!

Jeff

Jeff, yes. It turns out that a house cannot withstand a storm unless it is built on a rock.

With conservatives like French, who needs liberals?

Jacob

Jacob, thanks, and see above.

David French learned a while back that there will always be audience for content denouncing Christians and conservatives for not being nice enough, especially if you are in that camp. Trump just made that business model more lucrative, and French is happy to fill that market share.

BJ

BJ, thanks.

David French is astonishingly blind not to see the complicity of governing officials in the rioting. More than a simple disagreement, I’m afraid he’s been grinding the Philistine’s corn for some time. His every action seems calculated to oppose faithful Christian political engagement. I sincerely pray God will restore his sight and even grant Mr. French Samson-style revenge.

Nathan

Nathan, I attribute this sort of thing to a real love for America, but they are thinking of an older America where the myth of neutrality, that deadly lie, was still plausible on the surface. In other words, that myth died, and some conservatives are still in the denial phase of the grieving process.

The Election Looms

As election day draws nigh, I was wondering if you would list of the specific decisions/actions Trump has made that makes you want to vote for him this time around.

Thanks

Tim

Tim, yes, I hope to do that.

Antifa and the Fascists

Hey there, I’ve been an irregular reader of your stuff since like 1997. “I wonder what Doug thinks…” is, I’m certain, some question that arises from my childlike desire for someone to throw a cultural molotov for the sake of Christ’s glory. Certainly the Mosowvite has one in hand. You hardly ever disappoint, comrade bruv. Question: why is it, in your HO, that Antifa never seem to target actual Fascists? They tend to aim at the blue collar business owners. The actual fascists, according to definition, would be peeps like Bill Gates, the leaders of the World Economic Forum, Davos, Carlyle Group and the WHO, etc. All Unelected, Corporate heads, who have been given carte blanche to do whatever they deem necessary for the Great Reset come 2021.

Thoughts? Thanks for being you.

In Christ,

Christopher

Christopher, as far as me being me is concerned, I can’t help it. I think you are right in the main, but some of them really are going the whole distance — think of the guillotine outside Jeff Bezos’ house.

Front Lines Mom

I take your point from several pieces you have written and things that have been said that it’s patently obvious we are on the brink of either a cultural reformation or dissolution. Up to this point, despite all the current events, it’s been relatively easy to rest in the Lord’s sovereignty over the situation. These recent days however, I find myself wrestling with a rising anxiety over the potential of civil violence and unrest on a large scale in America.

As a mother who is currently educating many children in our home, I know from a ground level perspective that I am wielding a potent weapon in the Kingdom as I ask the Lord to help me raise our children in His nurture and ways. And yet from a big-picture perspective the temptation is to feel like I’m little ole me at home with my flock whilst America is a burning dumpster fire and most men are either welcoming it or standing on the side, shrugging their shoulders with their hands in their pockets. Additionally, most Christians in our community are very dispensational in their theology, so of course, everything IS going to Hell and Jesus is coming back like, next week. Stay tuned. All of these things are beginning to converge in a daily battle of discouragement as I consider the months and years ahead.

How can I navigate these times with the proper mixture of courage, fortitude, and hope in a practical manner of speaking? I’m implementing the common means of grace in my life and in our home and I still struggle to be encouraged. What would your counsel be for me and other mothers like myself?

Whitney

Whitney, it sounds to me like you know what to say to yourself, but just need to be reminded to say it. Never forget, however challenging things might get, your children were born for this hour.

Hyper-Preterism Once More

I’m writing because I’m struggling with sorting out my postmillennial convictions and the heretical Hyper-Preterist movement. I grew up in a Fundyville of Pre-trib, Pre-mill hoop-la; I’ve since become Reformed and embraced Postmillennialism (btw, it truly is a lot of fun!). My issue, however, is that my mind wants to make a jump to Hyper-Preterism because I’m seeing how all of the passages I thought were supernatural (like the Olivet Discourse) were actually just hyperbolic language about A.D. 70. Why can we make this passage hyperbolic, and not every passage that’s about the supernatural resurrection in the New Testament?

Thanks again.

James

James, the key is to let Scripture interpret Scripture. When we look at the decreation language of Matthew 24, we find that Jesus is quoting decreation language from Isaiah, where it is talking about the destruction of Babylon and Edom. When we encounter language in the New Testament about the general resurrection at the end of history (as in Martha’s comment to Jesus about Lazarus), we see that the Jews of the Lord’s day interpreted the OT language about resurrection as being the climax of human history. And they weren’t wrong, as the Lord’s response shows.

Justice Stuff

I recently started listening to your podcast and I’m very appreciative of how your thoughts give grit to theology, something that is greatly lacking in evangelicalism today.

I have a question for you, can you recommend a few books on the topic of justice from a biblical perspective? There are many books on the subject of social justice, but I’d like to start with an objective approach by looking at what the Bible says.

Thank you and thanks for all that your doing. Keep up the good work, knowing that our labor and toil in the Lord is not in vain.

God bless,

Ethan

Ethan, thanks. And see below.

A Close Election

There’s a fairly important point you didn’t mention. The only reason there is any possibility of a close election is the electoral college. If the election were determined by national popular vote, Trump would be toast. In fact, neither he nor George Bush (nor any Republican ever again) would have been elected in the first place

Conservatives cite this as an example of why the electoral college is a good thing, but try, just for a minute, to see how it looks to the left. They see the election as stolen just by virtue of the fact that they command majority support among the American people but are deprived of power anyway. So to whatever extent they do steal, they see themselves as simply getting back what was first stolen from them. And so of course they are angry and in the mood to riot. So would you be. Is there any doubt that if the electoral college routinely awarded the White House to popular vote losing Democrats, instead of the other way around, that the right would be ready to riot too?

And what you are seeing is JFK’s dictum that those who make peaceful change impossible will make violent change inevitable. Whatever you think of socialism, the country wants national health care. And a broad social safety net. And if there is a violent civil war because the majority can’t get what it wants through democratic means, you may end up with far more socialism than you would have under Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

I’ve never been a fan of the Constitution. I see it as a bit of political expedience that managed to bring the states along into a union, but that also gave us a bloody civil war 75 years later. It may yet produce a second civil war. But, those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable.

Mike

Mike, thanks. From the sociological side, I actually think there is much in what you say. But keep in mind that the liberal establishment dominated our political life for most of the twentieth century. It is the conservative resurgence that has actually been trying to change direction, ineffectually for the most part. The hard Left wants a lot more of what we have been doing for many decades. Conservatives want the real change.

“That does not mean that evil has triumphed for good, but it does mean you should be stocked up on guns and ammo.” Pastor Doug, what would be the best biblical case you can muster (this side of the Cross) for defending your property (and perhaps your neighbor’s business/home) from rioter’s by guns or other shows of force? I have heard a flip side argument of overcoming evil with good, loving your enemy, etc . . . which doesn’t seem quite right to apply here, but I’m not sure what the N.T. case would be for standing in front of Frank’s Quickie-Mart with an AR-15 all macho-like might be.

Joseph

Joseph, two things. First, there is an optical illusion here because we don’t understand how property rights are human rights. Behind Frank’s Quickie-Mart are Frank’s wife and kids, who need to be housed, fed, and clothed. Thus you are not defending the PopTarts with your AR-15, you are defending the rule of law, and through that, people created in the image of God. Second, I would prefer to make a biblical case, and not just a NT case.

If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft” (Exodus 22:2–3).

This happened at 2 am, after the alarms at Frank’s Quickie-Mart went off.

One More Lock Down Letter

Thanks again for the work you do. My apologies for the umpteenth questions about this lock down business. I guess it’s part and parcel of speaking faithfully on relevant and pressing issues…

Our church opened rather late (August) and stringently requires masks for both services. In addition, you cannot register to attend a service if in the last 14 days you have been in any state with a travel warning (as determined by the glorious socialist republic of New Jersey). A voluntary, but not really, quarantine order used to exist for all residents returning from those states, that’s why the policy is in place.

After visiting a military friend in Tennessee it now seems apparent I cannot attend church for two weeks. Word on the street is that even offering to take a COVID test will not make a difference. Services are streamed online. Me and my wife asked to meet with one of our elders and his wife about the issue, and while I sense they are in agreement over the ridiculousness of the matter, I doubt the verdict will change and I will likely be barred from attending, and by extension my wife along with me will be absent for two weeks since we would go somewhere else.

The gospel is preached at our church and the elders have held mostly steady on current issues, a gut-reaction from the pulpit on the George Floyd situation months ago being the outlier. But being barred from Lord’s day service with, presumably, no tangible biblical support, along with the host of mask requirements and other silliness that has gone on makes it feel like our membership might be worth reevaluating. A very solid 1689 Baptist church exists just down the road that we would heavily consider. By way of advice and caution, does this seem like an issue worth pressing and possibly leaving over, or should we be thankful for an otherwise faithful church? Many thanks

Wesley

Wesley, if your church has been otherwise faithful, I would urge you to do what you can to not divide over this issue. I would visit the 1689 church until the coast is clear back home, and then come home when you can. If your home church spirals into something worse, then I would consider transferring.

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-BJ-
-BJ-
1 year ago

RE: Ben

I would absolutely buy that shirt.

Mark H.
Mark H.
1 year ago

On the question of why Antifa doesn’t target actual fascists, it is likely that to Antifa any form of capitalism, even Bernie’s mostly socialistic version, is evil and must be destroyed. And businesses are easier targets than actual fascists, which are pretty thin on the ground, and likely to be armed.

C Herrera
C Herrera
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark H.

This is what Antifa is like: shoot someone execution-style, claim he was a “nazi” and laugh about taking out the trash:
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/update-trump-supporter-murdered-in-portland-rioters-celebrate-his-death-on-camera/

I have no desire to have paintball and firecracker wars with them in a God-forsaken place like Portland. But if they want to play guerilla warfare in my neighborhood, I’m still under an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign AND domestic.

That said, they’re really just pawns for bigger players. But both Antifa and BLM are turning into loose cannons who overestimate what they can do.

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago

Mike: “If the election were determined by national popular vote…” It’s not. Never has been. John F. Kennedy (yup, the same one Mike quoted) said this about the Electoral College in 1956 while still a senator from Massachusets: …it is not only the unit vote for the presidency we are talking about, but a whole solar system of governmental power. If it is proposed to change the balance of power of one of the elements of the system, it is necessary to consider the others. The New York Times, house organ of the Democrat party, said this right after the… Read more »

Leslie Sneddon
Leslie Sneddon
1 year ago

In regards to the most excellent read, “Ride, Sally, Ride”, the “fainting couch, smelling salts crowd” need to read it first..

Adad
Adad
1 year ago

“I’ve never been a fan of the Constitution.”
Pissst, Mike, it’s always sunny in Venezuela!

“But, those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable.”

Umm, no.

“Those who make a rotten case, will also resort to rotten means.”

This explains Adam Schiff and Antifa equally well.

But don’t worry Mike, inevitably, they will like your false bromide better. 🤔

C Herrera
C Herrera
1 year ago
Reply to  Adad

Yes, Mike’s another example of the “tolerant left” who manages to justify murder, rioting, looting, assaults and terrorizing people in the streets (both on foot and in their cars). But what’s really asinine about his ” those who make peaceful change impossible” line is his denial that leftists haven’t already had their way. We’re one election away from silencing almost any voice that dares to speak against socialism, BLM, LGBTQ+, pedophilia, critical race theory, etc. Plenty of people have been cancelled, de-platformed, de-monetized and threatened already.

C Herrera
C Herrera
1 year ago
Reply to  C Herrera

Another absurdity in Mike’s rant is that the left would win a civil war and leave us more socialist. Nope. They’d either lose or we’d split the country up….unless Mike’s CCP pals literally showed up on our soil and helped. Even then, most of us would never surrender. If it’s as bad as he thinks, we should just peacefully secede and be done with it. It won’t take long for “Chaz America” to implode, though. Have fun with your “free” healthcare courtesy of Antifa medics.

Ted Ryan
Ted Ryan
1 year ago

On the question of why Antifa types don’t oppose actual fascism, it seems obvious to me that they aren’t actually anti-fascist. They are fighting yet another battle in the great war on words, they don’t know what fascist means and they don’t care.

Brendan
Brendan
1 year ago

I think the gifs you show Doug can be rather extreme sometimes. In the lastest the man in the crashed up van can be seen flopping out of the window–clearly dead I would presume.

JohnM
JohnM
1 year ago
Reply to  Douglas Wilson

I think I might see it, right at the end, center right edge of the frame. Hard to tell for sure what I’m seeing without being able stop motion/re-run.

Jane
Jane
1 year ago
Reply to  JohnM

The only thing I see is something much smaller than a human body.

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane

I confess to extreme curiosity about who is repeatedly downvoting Jane, one of the most calmly reasonable and polite posters ever to grace these pages. I find myself parsing her every word searching in vain for some element of offense.

Adad
Adad
11 months ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

I suspect that ONE of our snide and cynical Wilson hating commenters here, has a legion of internet monikers, where he is one person, down voting a comment multiple times. Croucho Snarks could not be reached for comment. 😏

C Herrera
C Herrera
11 months ago
Reply to  Adad

I hope he doesn’t vote for Biden as many times as he downvotes here!

Adad
Adad
11 months ago
Reply to  C Herrera

Touche’ 😏

kyriosity
kyriosity
11 months ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

It’s precisely *because* dear Jane is calm, reasonable, and polite that they have to resort to being childish, irrational, and petty. They can’t meet her on her high ground, so they have to lob their little insults from their low ground.

C Herrera
C Herrera
11 months ago
Reply to  kyriosity

Are bots doing the voting? There’s no consistency, ideologically speaking, and some comments now have double-digit votes. If someone is doing this manually…get a hobby or something.

kyriosity
kyriosity
11 months ago
Reply to  Jane

I think the “smaller thing” is the person’s head. His clothing blends into the background so it’s not really distinguishable as a separate object.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Douglas Wilson

Doug, when you are strolling down the street in Moscow and pass someone wearing a mask, what that person is saying to you is, “I care about you, neighbor, and I would hate to inadvertently infect you with this horrible virus.” And when someone passes you on the street, sans mask, you are telling them that that you really don’t care if you infect them. All of your pontificating aside, it’s as simple as that. There’s a biblical term for that kind of person but at the moment it escapes me. The same goes for you as a pastor.

Adad
Adad
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Moscow, ID
Latah County
As of Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:22 PM EDT
CONFIRMED CASES
273
DEATHS
0
12%Since last week

It’s called common Grace Croucho.
It even covers you.
Try and be thankful.
With some practice, you might even develop some grace yourself.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Adad

adad zero,

Leave it to you calvinists to turn the definition of grace on its head. Yours is an Orwellian Religion. How sad for you and your loved ones.

Adad
Adad
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

John 1: 14 “And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son,[d] full of grace and truth.”

Croucho, everything Jesus did was full of grace and truth. Including clearing the temple, and correcting the Pharisees. The people who correct you here, show you the same grace. And good humor as well. 🔥

My5thBurnerAccount
My5thBurnerAccount
1 year ago
Reply to  Adad

My definition of love is strapping someone down to a table and shooting them up with a COVID vaccine, whether they want it or not. Everyone else in the room can raise their fist in solidarity, shouting “I care about you, neighbor, and I would hate to inadvertently infect you with this horrible virus.”

Overflowing grace, love and tolerance to the max. Coexist, people!

My5thBurnerAccount
My5thBurnerAccount
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Yep, banning free speech via cancel culture, vast social media censorship and angry mobs coming to your house ain’t Orwellian. Nor is erasing history and claiming delayed gratification, willpower and 2+2 = 4 are Western relics that need to be stamped out.

But not wearing masks? Now that’s straight out of 1984. Newspeak is working!

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

What if neither of you has the virus? Then a mask is unnecessary. What if both of you have the virus? Then a mask doesn’t do diddly squat. What if the virus is so small, it will slide right through your porous mask? What if the virus is so horrible, 99% of people who get it survive it? What if it’s March, during the height of the virus? Then masks are ineffective, because that’s what The Experts said, and, as we all know, a mask is only as effective as per the opinion of an Expert. Chances are, you weren’t… Read more »

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago

TCFKAfp,

What if the moon were made of cheese? That’s how silly your comment is. I guess in your world that passes for logic. How tragic.

And yes, in March, if we left the house we wore masks.

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

But you didn’t wear masks inside the house, thereby exposing your family to this horrible virus.

When someone passes you in the house, sans mask, you are telling them you really don’t care if you infect them.

Why do you want to kill grandma, Clay?

Go on, Clay. I’m dying to know how the virus knows the difference between neighbors and your family, since you’re so good at this logic thing.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago

TCFKAfp,

Another silly comment. Are you always this obtuse? That would go a long way toward explaining your history of inane comments. I’m being charitable.

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

You yourself admitted you don’t wear masks inside your house. Therefore, according to your own reasoning, you don’t care if you infect your family.

Remember, anytime you point the finger at someone else, you got three pointing right back at you, kiddo.

But if it makes you feel better, then please, continue flailing about with your feeble insults. It’s nothing if not amusing watching you hoist yourself on your own petard like an incompetent terrorist.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago

You really don’t get it. Sadly, that’s not a surprise.

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
11 months ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

On the contrary, I do get it.

According to you, not wearing a mask says, “I don’t care if I infect you.”

You don’t wear a mask in the house.

Therefore, you don’t care if you infect your family.

No wonder you virtue signal. Gotta make up for the crappy way in which you treat your own family.

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
1 year ago

I do wear a mask inside the house. My daughter’s post-COVID syndrome team said that it may take years for her to recover her health. No one knows at this point. They said that the risk of reinfection is very low but not non-existent, and that given how sick she still is, reinfection could finish off her lungs. I have more contact with the outside world than she does, which is why I wear a mask if I am near her. When she was very ill, the mask may have prevented my catching it. Amazingly, when people actually know someone… Read more »

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

Thank you for sharing your experience with COVID. I’m glad your daughter and you are faring well. I hope you both have a strong support group helping you navigate these horrible times.

Hopefully, your comment will encourage some of Doug Wilson’s readers to reconsider their refusal to wear a mask when in public or around those most susceptible to the ravages of this disease.

Dave
Dave
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Clay, you ignore the actual Moscow laws and health rules which essentially tell us that we are not required to wear masks. There is a biblical term for those who try to add and to subtract from scripture or try to twist scripture to mean what it doesn’t mean. You are trying to use scripture to shame those who don’t wear masks — even though we happen to care for those around us. Nice try, but that doesn’t work. Thank you for your troll, but the CDC posted information telling us peons that masks don’t help with the wildfire smoke… Read more »

Sara F
Sara F
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Our family has already had COVID. Wearing a mask will neither protect others nor me from COVID. Why should I wear a mask?

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Sara F

Sara F,

I glad you family has recovered. I hope the the disease didn’t hit you too hard. As for your question, see Jill Smith’s comment above.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave

Dave, Your comment reveals your ignorance regarding how the virus is spread. I recommend you educate yourself is this regard, preferably by reading what scientists, rather than some preacher, have written. Your failure to recognize that the City of Moscow does not forbid you from wearing a mask is another a red mark on your reasoning skills. As for the twisting of scriptures to shame someone, you have obviously confused me with Doug Wilson. Everyone outside of Moscow knows that’s his modus operandi. If you doubt that, you should familiarize yourself with his previous blog posts. A Google search would… Read more »

Adad
Adad
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

There is a verse for that!
Luke 17:3
So watch yourselves. “If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Adad

I know. I’ve done the best I can, but rebuking this crowd is a waste of time. I’m sure you know from personal experience just how hard it is to reach those that are wrapped up in a cult. To be honest, there really is nothing for me to forgive. Tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

Maybe you’ll have better luck, but I doubt it.

Dave
Dave
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Happy trolling to you,
Until we meet again.
Happy trolling to you,
I’m sure we’ll see you pretend,
To twist the facts to make you feel all better.
To make all Christians think they are in the gutter.

Happy trolling to you,
Until we meet again.

Apologies to Roy and Dale.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave

Dave, does this mean we’re not friends anymore? If I thought you weren’t my friend I just don’t think I could bear it.

We Be Libtards
We Be Libtards
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

The snark needs some work, Clay. It’s dragging your cred down. Honestly? It’s just plain lame.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
11 months ago
Reply to  We Be Libtards

That means a lot coming from you.

Christopher
Christopher
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Why are you claiming to know the intended communication of mask wearers or non mask wearers?

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Christopher

I have a Doug Wilson gobbledegook decoder ring.

We Be Libtards
We Be Libtards
1 year ago
Reply to  Christopher

It’s Sooooo obvious why you don’t understand.

kyriosity
kyriosity
11 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Wilson

It’s hard to see, because the figure sort of blends in with the street in the low-res image, but when I increase the page size (CTRL+ a few times), it sure does look like a body flopping out. I downloaded it and went frame by frame, and that makes me almost positive. But I would not have seen it otherwise.

We Be Libtards
We Be Libtards
1 year ago
Reply to  Brendan

He’s not dead, he was wearing a mask.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  We Be Libtards

What’s the difference?

Justin Parris
Justin Parris
1 year ago

” If the election were determined by national popular vote, Trump would be toast. In fact, neither he nor George Bush (nor any Republican ever again) would have been elected in the first place” This is 1st grader level analysis Mike. If the election were decided based upon the popular vote, the vote totals themselves would be different, as innumerable people who are either unmotivated to vote, or vote third party primarily because their vote doesn’t really matter, would change their actions. If you want to assert what would happen in a hypothetical scenario, you have to actually do the… Read more »

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  Justin Parris

Well for starters, Trump lost the 2016 popular vote by 2,868,686. Even though I utterly detest the current resident of the People’s House almost as much as I do the occupant of Number One Observatory Circle, I am still in favor of the Electoral College.

C Herrera
C Herrera
1 year ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

With all that hate, there’s not much room for Christ is there? No wonder you support the party that treats abortion, LGBTQ+ perversion and street terrorism/lawlessness as holy sacraments.

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
1 year ago
Reply to  C Herrera

C Herrera, Who said anything about hate? I certainly don’t hate Trump or Pence. I detest their behaviors and actions which unfortunately aren’t easily separated from their character. Your characterizations would be easier to sympathize with if your side of the political divide gave two cents about those babies after they are born, denounced right-wing terrorists (you call them freedom fighters), really listened to and tried to understand black people’s complaints about systemic racism, and instead of hating and cheering when they are harmed, you chose to love those who are different than you or me. That to my thinking… Read more »

C Herrera
C Herrera
11 months ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

Clay You’ve apparently never learnd to think without an MSM/public school/pop culture filter. To wit: 1) Not sure what right-wing terrorists you’re talking about. Many of the ones the media has labeled as such have been all over the place politically. It’s often a convenient label to “prove” they’ve done more mass killers than left wingers. Of course, these articles ignore many leftist killers, including the original SJW, Jim Jones. If you’re talking about Rittenhouse, he was literally chased and cornered and someone (a convicted pedophile who asked to be shot earlier that evening) assaulted him and tried to take… Read more »

Clay Crouch
Clay Crouch
11 months ago
Reply to  C Herrera

C Herrera,

Apparently you never learned to think. Let me guess. Home schooled withDoug’s curriculum.

C Herrera
C Herrera
11 months ago
Reply to  Clay Crouch

You accuse me of not being able to think while making a 3rd-grade grammar mistake? Your assumption is wrong, but that curriculum would be MUCH better than one involving Common Core math, critical race theory, LGBTQ+ awareness and other brainwashing one would get in a government indoctrination center.

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Justin Parris

Justin, if I’m following your argument, it would then follow that voters in swing states would already have a higher turnout than those in states that are reliably solid red or blue. I’m curious about whether this is already what happens. I agree with your main point for the most part although I think demographic shifts already underway will make it increasingly difficult for Republicans to carry the most populous states.

Ree
Ree
1 year ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

If I understand it, Jill, if the electoral college is abolished, then we’d have a national popular vote. In that case, it wouldn’t be necessary to carry a state. I’m certainly in favor of keeping the electoral college, but since I live in a decidedly blue state, I’m considering voting for Trump, even though it’s a difficult thing for me to do, as if the popular vote mattered. Because even though it doesn’t yet, I don’t want to give force to the argument that Trump would necessarily lose if we decided by popular vote.

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Ree

As a Canadian, I didn’t grow up with a national popular vote; in fact, we didn’t vote directly for the leader at all. We voted for the Member of Parliament by political party in our riding, and the leader of the party which carried the largest number of ridings automatically became prime minister. If there was no clear majority, he had to form a minority government which could always be toppled by non-confidence votes from the other parties, triggering a new election. It was complicated but not quite as strange as the Electoral College! As I understand it, the original… Read more »

Ree
Ree
11 months ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

Yeah, I don’t think Hamilton had Trump in mind there.

My5thBurnerAccount
My5thBurnerAccount
11 months ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

Sorry, but I quit reading after “My dear Alexander Hamilton.” Talk about the great, great grandfather of the problems we have now! Not the electoral college, mind you, but central banking and a host of other things.

We Be Libtards
We Be Libtards
1 year ago
Reply to  Ree

Makes perfect sense to me.

Andrew Lohr
1 year ago

@ mother Whitney–Tony Campolo’s wife got tired of sounding like you at her somewhat famous husband’s parties. She thought about it and came up with something like this. So next time she was asked what she did, she said “I’m preparing the next generation to sweep away the decaying kingdoms of this world and to serve the eternal Kingdom of God. What do you do?” Response: “Me? Oh, I’m just a doctor.” Good story, even if her husband had better be taken with several grains of salt.

kyriosity
kyriosity
11 months ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

I remember hearing that comment back in the 1980s. The Campolos actually made some sense back then.