Letters in the Ides of March

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Sabbath Work

What principles can we put into practice when it comes to Sabbath rest? Specifically when it comes to recreation. It seems obvious that a calm walk around the neighborhood seems fine, but how can we examine the gray areas, say, playing golf, or basketball?
Thanks,

Logan

Logan, I don’t think we should define work as expenditure of energy, as though we needed to define work from a physics textbook. I think it needs to be defined contextually, meaning that it is distinct from your vocational work on the other six days. If you have a desk job, playing frisbee with your kids on the sabbath will involve more “work,” but it is actually not work at all.

Preemptive Strikes?

I was wondering what your view is on preemptive strikes since you labor to keep to a biblical understanding of things and I’ve heard you talk about Augustine and just war theory. Specifically, I am thinking about the Iran situation and nuclear weapons. My understanding is that Iran reported that they had about 460kg of 60% enriched uranium which if further enriched to 90% would be enough to make 10 nuclear bombs or so. And if they were really only interested in having uranium for nuclear power you only need uranium enriched to 3-5%. Well, that is what chatGPT says. What do I know . . . ? Anyways, did Augustine ever say anything about preemptive strikes? what do you think about that?
Thank you for all you do sir,

Joshua

Joshua, sorry, I don’t know if Augustine said anything about that. As for me, I believe that it depends. If your enemy has a tank battalion lined up on your border, and they are revving their engines, I don’t see any problem with a preemptive strike because the imminent threat is clear to everyone. But in cases where we just don’t know, it is a bit more difficult. On the one hand, I think that Iran did want the bomb and were working toward that end. I think preventing that is justifiable. But on the other hand the “war-on-Iran” party here in the States has been claiming that Iran was “weeks away” from having nukes for years. That should give us pause. In this case, I think action could have been justified solely on the basis of Iran arming Hamas and Hezbollah, making our action retaliation and not preemptive.

Calvin Friendly

Coming from someone who identifies as a classical Arminian but Calvinist friendly: a clarifying question after listening to your recent conversation with ‘DadSavesAmerica’
First you mention that God foreknows every word before we even say it, granted of course, He is all knowing.
When Shakespeare writes Hamlet, while the characters speech is indeed 100% Shakespeare and 100% Hamlet, the former is still determining and dictating* what the latter will both say and think. While Hamlet will speak the next word, he does not choose his next word, Shakespeare does. Which does in a sense make Hamlet a puppet, no?
I think I’m either misunderstanding you, or misunderstanding exactly how you differ from hyper-Calvinists. Thanks

L

L, in all the years I have the Hamlet illustration, the anticipated objection is that we are living, three-dimensional beings, with hopes, dreams, aspirations, while Hamlet is just a literary figure, and everything he says is “just Shakespeare.” We are much greater than Hamlet. But in all those years, nobody has ever said to me, “Wilson, your analogy fails because God is much greater than Shakespeare.” Shakespeare was a great playwright, and his talent made Hamlet almost come to life. God is much greater than that, and He writes characters who actually do come to life. But He remains the one who writes the play for all that.

Honoring Actual Fathers

This isn’t addressing a specific post of yours, more a comment about many of the recent conversations you’ve found yourself a part of.
The new right likes to write and talk glowingly of their heritage from days of yore, praising their forefathers whom they never met. We’re told we should respect them by being like them.
At the same time, we’re told our literal fathers deserve none of the same. Those boomers can all take a hike.
Proves yet again that it’s much harder to love the family you deal with every day than those you only see once a year.

Justin

Justin, yes. It reminds me of that great Peanuts line. “I love mankind. It’s people I can’t stand.”

A Protestant Republic

Great article about a Protestant republic! Too bad that none of your critics are going to read, really read, the whole thing.

Jennifer

Jennifer, thank you. As crosses to bear go, it is a small one.

Hegseth and the Third Temple

In regards to “Insurrection Barbie and the Plains of Megiddo” (esp. Third Temple Challenges): I ran your article past my dad and thought I’d pass on his comments/explanation for the dilemma you laid out.
Basically, the embarrassment for dispensationalists (like my dad) is avoided because the Third Temple isn’t built until after the Rapture. Meaning, the Age of Grace will be over, history enters an overtime period, and the Jews take the anti-Christ’s bait and rebuild.
Regardless of whether the temple comes before or after the Rapture though, he agreed that the sacrifices would not be acceptable to God and Christians who are keen for the temple to be rebuilt are getting out over their skis. (Voddie Baucham also gave similar warnings).
Despite that fact that it would be built under the auspices of the anti-Christ, he describes that early period of the Tribulation as a ‘practice round’ for temple activity in the Millennium.
I know you would disagree with his assessment but I was curious if you were aware of this rejoinder. Assuming it were true . . . does it solve your dilemma?
P.S. I was glad to see that you also recently mentioned the video that surfaced of Hegseth talking about the Third Temple. I’ve seen the video and him seemed…eager for it. I figured that since he was in a CREC church he’d be covenantal in his theology. I don’t suppose you know where he actually stands on the issue?
Much thanks,

Jonathan

Jonathan, no. I have not talked with Pete about that issue. And as far as your dad goes, I get that he says that God does not receive the sacrifices the way He did in the Old Testament. That solves the bulk of the dilemma, but there is still a problem. If the Age of Grace really is over, why wouldn’t God receive them?
Dispensational click bait. I like it! And I would give you a passing score on treating us courteously. There were a couple of moments where I thought you didn’t quite see what the dispenationalists are saying, starting with our understanding of the book of Hebrews. I tend to think Hebrews presents a very strongly dispensational view of the Old and New Covenants. There will be no need to reconcile the book of Hebrews with a rebuilt temple in the latter days. Jews will rebuild it, not Christians, because observant Jews continue think it’s necessary. And that’s where the future antichrist will proclaim himself to be God, setting off the last acts of the last days.
Yours in Christ,
P.S. You’re going to be slapped around and called ugly names for this article. You know that, right? But thanks. Overall, nicely done, thumbs up, and all that.

Bro. Steve

Bro. Steve, thanks. I understand that the Jews would think it necessary. But two things. The big issue with me is whether God would receive those sacrifices. See above. I also see a number of Jews having trouble with it, because it will seem to them like a major slide back into barbaric and primitive religion.
It’s providential that a congregant of your DC church plant is commanding forces in the latest battle on the plains of Megiddo. Hopefully he is receiving correction and discipline on the biblical doctrines related to just war.

Josh

Josh, thanks. He is a member in good standing.

Christian Nationalism . . . Again

I’ve listened to you several times on YouTube, and I’m increasingly persuaded by your basic argument about Christian nationalism: nations are moral actors, so the nation ought to act in a Christian way. I’m unclear on the limits of this position. Do you distinguish between a Christian nation and a Christian theocracy? If so, what is the difference? If not, what is the limit of theocracy? Is there any inherent reason that a country today (or every country today) could not be in the same position as Old Testament Israel? Are laws analogous to those of OT Israel appropriate for a country today, such as laws against calling for a worship of other gods (Deuteronomy 13)? Mormonism, for example, is a false religion that presents false gods, but I’m not sure that I would trust a government official or a government committee to reliably distinguish that sort of falsehood from the truth. Would laws requiring positive religious duty, such as church attendance, be appropriate?

Gary

Gary, this would be just a summary statement. More can be found in my Frequently Shouted Questions About Christian Nationalism. Any Christian nation today would differ from ancient Israel in that we would not be getting direct revelation from prophets. But with that noted, all nations are theocratic—the only difference being which God (theos) they serve. In a Christian order, there would be no legal requirement to worship the true God. Rather, unbelievers who lived with us would be under a law order which was grounded in Scripture.

A Catholic Riposte

“The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.”
G.K. Chesterton
Good grief man, you’re quoting Chesterton on the NSA website, one of the early 20th century greats of Catholicism. Read some more of him, and listen to him.

Tim

Tim, thanks for the exhortation. But I do need to note that I have read a boatload of Chesterton. And to have a Calvinist college quoting Chesterton is quite cheeky and . . . one might dare say, Chestertonian.

Writing Dialogue

I hope you’re doing well. I’m curious, in this video, you mentioned prospective writers ought to read books on writing dialogue. What books do you recommend? I’ve read/listened to many of the books on writing on Canon+, and I’m looking for other ones as well.

ON

ON, try starting with this one.

God, Make It Clear

I wanted to start off and say the Lord is faithful in my life every time I’ve needed wisdom and discernment. He’s also given me a spirit to not be afraid of asking questions so here goes.
I’ll start with the question. Is this normal? What should I make of this?
I’m in the same age bracket Jesus was during his earthly ministry. Some nights (like this one is going to be I can tell) I stay up late thinking about how I may be wasting this season of life.
There’s this nagging feeling that I’m not doing what I’m supposed to be. I feel this call, but I haven’t got the slightest clue what it is for or what I’m supposed to be doing.
Sometimes I think it’s pride talking. That if called to do some unknown great deed I’d jump to it, but I’m treating living out the Great Commission in my daily life like washing in the Jordan seven times.
I’ve prayed about it for years, but I’ve yet to be given an answer.
What’s to be made of these sleepless thoughts?

SR

SR, honestly, it sounds to me like classic overthinking. I think your prayer should be, “God, if you want me doing something else, please make it clear.” And then go to sleep.

Cultivating Fearlessness

I am not addressing any particular post.
Good evening over here. I once heard your son, Nate, make a comment that you are the most fearless person he knows on a ReformCon 2016 recorded show.
I wanted to know which scriptures in particular you have reinforced yourself with over the years given his comment and the backlash you frequently receive as a Christian Nationalist.

YDL

YDL, I am thankful Nate feels that way. I feel the same way about my father, and so there is a family culture element there. But the central thing would be a scriptural absolutism, which was the foundation of the family culture. It is not so much one particular passage as it is a confident reception of everything the Bible teaches. Within that context, if you are reading your Bible over and over, you encounter Jehoshapht and his choir army, David and Goliath, Daniel in the lion’s den, Hezekiah praying in the Temple with the open letter before him, and so on. That gets in your bones.

Good Paragraph

I was wondering if you could read this brief paragraph I wrote, paralleling the consecration of the Levitical Priesthood with that of the Believer-Priesthood of the New Covenant. Is my typology consistent, or am I “reading too much into” the text of Exodus 40?
“Like the Levitical Priests of the Old Testament were typological of all believers under the New Covenant, so too was their consecration typological of all believers’ sanctification under the New Covenant. They put on their “holy garments” (Exodus 40:13); a type of Christians “putting on Christ” after the Cross (Gal. 3:27). They were “anointed” (Exodus 40:13), which was a picture of the Spirit’s anointing of believers in the New Covenant (1 John 2:20). And finally, they were “sanctified” (Exodus 40:13), which is now fulfilled in the office of the believer-priest by the grace of the Holy Spirit living within them (1 Cor. 6:11), and by the good works they have been called to do (Eph. 2:10).”

Ben

Ben, yes. Good work. If we are a priesthood of believers, then we are invited to apply all those details.

Tough One

How can a mother help prevent the consequences of father hunger in her children beyond loving and praying for their father? He is around and generally stable, but emotionally absent and uninterested in them.

KH

KH, this kind of thing can be heartbreaking, especially when you are close to it. I would say that in addition to praying for your husband, pray also for your children, and for opportunities to teach them to salute the uniform. A distant father respected is far, far better than a distant father despised.

More on Christian Nationalism

I’m a pastor of a “very large” church . . . I am trying to work through all these issues that you are teaching on publicly.
Concerning Christian nationalism, I agree that all legislation is an imposition of morality, and the liberal virtue of affirming things that make God mad is foolishness. I’m also an Ed Freidman fan.
However, I have two questions:
Could a Liberal order be founded upon the general public religion of the founding or the Tao of Lewis’ Abolition of Man, in which the Golden Rule’s law of moral non-hypocrisy could be a shared basis for law? This would take in the vast majority of people into the franchise while allowing full inclusion of Christian faith in the competition of culture in society. I think this is the “alternative” some of us hope for, fearing that Christian nationalism will become an illiberal medicine to illiberal problems. I have been laboring for 16 years to grow the godliness in my people that they could lead a people justly, but I could not predict their success in leading an illiberal regime with constancy given all of it’s perverse incentives. I’m not at all certain I could do it myself.
Thus, my question is: Given the human condition, can a virtuous society (and thus a lasting just society) only be created in an illiberal sphere, like a family or a classroom or a Geneva? This seems to be the assumption of the law, and of the NT use of church discipline. The church is a place of liberty in Christ, but is illiberal in its responsibility to expel bad actors and false teachers lest they “spread like gangrene.” Yet if we promote illiberal governance—we support the structure of the 20 years of terror in India that will keep me out and use its power to further crush the believers in that nation. With AI and tightening borders, I’m concerned about mission access in a world of growing expulsion powers.
Do you think there is a kind of “confederated nationalism” in which smaller confederated states that have their own moral spheres is more workable than moving a nation of 360+ million people? Can we have both Spain and Catalonian independence? Spain when we have to fight Germany, but Catalonia at all other times? Then some states could attempt to be a city on a hill. So less Christian Nationalism, but more Christian States/Confederated localism in a truly neutral nation?
Thanks for the work you do and the temperance by which you do it.
Blessings,

Nic

Nic, these are great questions, intelligent questions. The problem with building a society that honors the Golden Rule, for example, is that we are living downstream from Nietzsche. In order to live that way, we would first have to get all the monkeys back in the cage, and that cannot be done apart from a widespread turning to Christ. A robust church can influence a surrounding culture to live that way, but a lowest-common-denominator culture cannot. I don’t believe that Christian governance, if it is truly Christian governance, would be illiberal. We believe in sin, and we believe that we have a sin problem just like everybody else. Christian rulers would be suspicious of themselves. We would be illiberal when it comes to rape, murder on subways, and transing the kids. We would be liberal elsewhere.

More Third Temple Stuff

I always find your thoughts on Jews and Israel to be helpful and edifying. I still consider American Milk and Honey to be about the best thing I’ve read in the last few years. So, thanks!
Here is a question regarding a third temple. I had the privilege of touring Israel with a Christian group a few years prior to these present troubles. Our guide was a local Jewish Christian. He had a few hot takes that made me go “hmm . . .” One of which is that the third temple would be built, but that Jesus alone would be worshiped there, and the old ways (sacrifices, Sanhedrin, etc . . .) would not be resumed. I’m just curious if you could envision that possibility.
As a related aside, since Meggido is in the article title, I’m wondering if you’ve read Michael Heiser’s take on the location of Christ’s return in his book “The Unseen Realm” (Ch41). It’s been a while, so I’ll let Grok summarize his argument below:
Heiser argues “Armageddon” (Greek Har-Magedon in Rev 16:16) is not a reference to the city/plain of Megiddo. Instead, it is a transliteration of the Hebrew har moʿed (“Mount of Assembly”), drawn from Isaiah 14:13. Heiser ties this to the cosmic geography of the Bible: the “Mount of Assembly” is Zion/Jerusalem—the divine council seat and cosmic mountain—where the final eschatological battle occurs (see also Zechariah 12). This places the conflict at/around the Temple Mount, not northern Israel.
Having seen both Meggido and the Temple Mount with my very own eyes, I couldn’t help but see a bit of divine storytelling that the spot where Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac, the same spot where the Holy of Holies was, the same spot where the Dome of the Rock presently sits, is where Christ will be returning in glory. Maybe that’s the moment when “the third temple” is “rebuilt.”

JPH

JPH, I don’t agree that Christ will be housed in the Third Temple and worshiped there, but it does have the advantage of dispensing with the animal sacrifices. But it also dispenses with the fact that we Christians are now the Temple of God. It has been many years since I read Heiser’s book, which I liked (except for his Calvinism chapter, which was bad), but I don’t remember being persuaded about Meggido. We shall see!

Tucker and Generations

Interacting with Man Rampant with Tucker Carlson and material you’ve written on relationships between generations . . .
In the Man Rampant interview you did with Tucker Carlson, he thought that one of the big problems in the US was the war between the sexes, and that young men and women are suspicious of each other and don’t know how to relate to one another. I’ve also read you somewhere talking about how generations are suspicious and accusatory towards one another, and even blaming one another for the ills that we are in. It’s just a whole lot of blaming going around.
If there is a place or a people that should rise above this, it is the church. But the church can be really bad with this blaming stuff. How might you encourage the elders of a church where there is a lot of this blame stuff and suspicion going around?
Peace,

Charles

Charles, when Christians are having trouble getting along, and there is a lot of accusation and recrimination, I would urge the elders of the church to task the pastor with preaching a series of messages on the cross of Jesus Christ. That is the place where we see the death of all envy. It is God’s lightning rod in the midst of our thunderstorm of striving and desire.

Reenchantment and EO

I’ve been reading a bit recently on the phenomenon of “reenchantment” and the discussion that seems to be happening mainly in Eastern Orthodox circles. I’ve read a few authors on Substack and then branched out into their books, namely Paul Kingsnorth’s “Against the Machine” and Rod Dreher’s “Living in Wonder.”
I’m new to Kingsnorth and a bit cautious. However I’ve enjoyed Dreher for a while. But both these books are rather unnerving. I’m almost finished with Dreher’s book, and while there’s a lot I need to think, pray, and study about, overall I think it’s potentially very spiritually dangerous. He encourages people to open themselves up to the numinous in ways that I think sound like inviting demon possession, or at the very least leave one vulnerable to such interactions. And the stories in his closing chapters about “enchanting” experiences and figures in Christianity are frankly alarming.
In short, I don’t think enough consideration is given to the wiliness of our Enemy and his capacity to appear as an angel of light in order to deceive and destroy souls. While Dreher et al. may have identified a blind spot in Protestantism/Evangelicalism, I strongly suspect this swings the pendulum too far the other way.
But I’m not sure.
I’d greatly appreciate any insights you might have into this growing segment of the discussion, or a point in the right direction if you already have. Might I suggest a chapter by chapter blog series through Dreher’s book?
Many thanks and God bless.

SB

SB, I haven’t read either of those books, so I can’t comment. But I can say that I very likely share your suspicions. Thanks for the blogging suggestion.
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Chris8647
Chris8647
1 hour ago

You fed him the “no quarter” huh, Doug?

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The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
59 minutes ago
Reply to  Chris8647

So now a political speech constitutes orders. Got it. And the USS Abraham Lincoln was struck by four ballistic missiles. And the Nigerian prince will be sending you that check any day now.

Is there anything the far-left media tells you that you won’t immediately fall for?

Justin Parris
Justin Parris
16 minutes ago

According to studies, when given an obvious question with an obvious right answer, in a room alongside a host of people all giving the same deliberately obviously wrong answer, one in three men and one in two women will be convinced that the wrong answer is correct.

So in short, no, there probably isn’t anything they can say that won’t be believed.

Chris8647
Chris8647
28 seconds ago

You are, as always, shadowboxing somebody who clearly isn’t me. I’m just poking fun at Doug rubbing off on lil’ Pete. Such sensitive snowflakes around here, jeez, lighten up!

Jake
Jake
1 hour ago

If KH has a brother or a male cousin in the area who is a Christian and friendly, invite them over for dinner.

Jake
Jake
1 hour ago

ON who do you think writes the best dialogue? Imitate them.

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