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Baptism and Paedocommunion

I have a question regarding communion. I am part of a church that was baptist for many years before switching over to covenant theology, including paedobaptism but not paedocommunion (PC). It took a few months to become convinced of the former and so I baptized all my young children. The question of PC I really never even considered but, at a gut level, now that my kids were baptized, it “felt” wildly inconsistent, even wrong, to not commune them. This lead me to naturally study this topic of PC—which I did thoroughly, on both sides of the debate, even reading all the anti-PC material my pastor recommended. Soon enough, the case for PC seemed to me very compelling, almost to the point of obvious and common sense. I’ve seen then visited a CREC church that practices PC and to see it first hand is the most sensible thing—as sensible as giving kids food at our dinner table at home. Now, my question is: I am still at my current non PC church—all pastors whom I like and respect a lot—but every week during communion I am viscerally pained. My gut reaction is to go with current church’s non PC practice while we are there and wait it out until we move this summer. Would you recommend something different?

Foster

Foster, your plan of action is what I would recommend.

Comment on Tucker

Great interview with Tucker.
Hard to nail down where exactly he is going but you did better than anyone else yet.
Thanks for trying.

Paul

Paul, thank you.

Thanks for the Heads Up

I saw you recommend Ed Welch’s Blame it on the Brain again recently, and I wanted to call attention to it to make sure readers pick up the first edition (1998). I just happened to buy the first edition (didn’t know there was a second) on your recommendation, and it was really solid—but I just read a CBMW article on the second edition where Ed unfortunately revised much of his chapter on sexual orientation to be much more aligned with Side B. Just wanted you and your readers to be aware if they weren’t already. They don’t write books like they used to.

Tim

Tim, that’s too bad. Thanks for the heads up.

Street Level Apologetics

If I wanted to start writing on apologetics by engaging with an unbeliever, and I only knew how to do basic apologetics (Like Bahnsen’s Always Ready) would that be a good place to start?

Ichigo

Ichigo, yes. That is a good place to start, but I wouldn’t start writing just yet. I would search out an online forum where believers and unbelievers interact, and join in those discussions. Do it without becoming a troll, and try to express the principles you have learned in books in actual conversations.

Hegseth and the Third Temple

To your knowledge, have Pete’s views on building the third temple changed since 2017 when this video was made?
Do you think God would be pleased by such a thing?

PPM

PPM, I haven’t talked with him specifically about that, so I am not in a position to say directly. But I can say that he is now living his life in a theological culture that doesn’t think that way at all. So as for myself, a rebuilt Temple would be a huge embarrassment to both Jews and Christian dispensationalists because of the need to resume animal sacrifices. No, God would not be pleased.

The Glad Assumption Problem

I like and have adopted your definition of Godly masculinity . . . The glad assumption of sacrificial responsibility. I use this definition and have taught it to my sons.
My question is . . . Couldn’t one argue that Godly women exhibit this very same character?
I’m not saying that the definition of Godly femininity is the same.
But, how is this definition of Godly masculinity uniquely distinct for men? Couldn’t many Godly women point to this definition and say, “I do that too, and it is a good thing!”?
Why/how is it unique to men?

Jeremy

Jeremy, great question. Femininity would be the glad reception of sacrifices made on one’s behalf, and so the answer to your question is that we are either male or female, period. But we are masculine or feminine, depending on the relation, and whether it is individual or corporate. The bride of Christ is feminine, but half of the bride is male. The parents together are masculine with regard to the children, but half of the parents are female. So your observation is correct in certain circumstances, but not when it comes to her relationship to her husband.

Jails and Drugs

I enjoyed your take on the prison system and agree with much of what you said. I currently work in a county jail where we house anywhere from 450 to 550 inmates at any given time. What I didn’t see in your critique was addressing the drug-related incarcerations (including alcohol), which make up one of the largest subcategories of crimes. In my county, which is relatively high income, drug-related incarcerations make up about 25% of what we see here, and somewhere upwards of 80% have drug addiction, which likely contributed to their original offense, even if that was not the arresting offense. Bureau of Prisons stats show over 40% of the total federal prisoners are incarcerated for drug offenses. Which of your proposed changes would cover this, and would decriminalizing all drugs be a part of it?
Thanks

Tim

Tim, I have a detailed discussion of this in my book Devoured by Cannabis. I have no problem with someone being jailed overnight on a “drunk and disorderly” charge. When it comes to crimes that are fueled by addiction (e.g. drunk driving), I would want the penalties to land hard on those who killed or injured someone while driving drunk. If you strike the fool, the simple learn wisdom (Prov. 19:25). I want our society to retain its official disapproval of other drugs, including marijuana, but would institute a program where offenders would have the option of paying a fine that could be used for them to go to rehab, including private Christian rehab centers.

Progressive Praying

The James Talarico Prayer, aka, the Progressive’s Prayer, aka the PCUSA’s Prayer:
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be your name privately,
your kingdom come, your will be done,
in heaven but not on earth, because that would force religion.
Give us this day our fair share of billionaire wealth,
And forgive us our ancestor’s trespasses,
as we excuse the trespasses of those they oppressed.
And keep all temptation legal,
But deliver us from the consequences (especially unwanted pregnancy),
For secular is the kingdom, the power, and the glory
Forever and ever,
Amen

Nathan

Nathan, thanks.

Empire?

I hope you’re doing well. As a preface, I know that you and your son, N.D. Wilson obviously have different ideas and opinions on things. I’m not intimately aware of all the ways in which you and your son differ, but knowing human nature, I’m sure it happens. However, I am curious as to your thoughts on something really interesting and cool he said recently on his (and Brian Kohl’s) podcast “Stories Are Soul Food.”
The immediate contact regarded America’s recent international actions. N.D. Wilson said: “America first isolationism is a non-Christian approach to the world. As God blesses nations, they become empires; it is just going to happen that way.”
I completely agree with the first sentiment; America-first isolationism is a one-way ticket to more problems happening in the nation. I was wondering as to your thoughts about the second part of the line. I think I agree with it, but I would like to iron out the implications. By God’s grace, I attended Christian schools, even into my postgraduate teacher certification. I was a history major, and throughout my entire time going to school, it was an almost accepted belief that any form of empire or nation building was a net negative for the world. Usually, textbooks/teachers would argue that empire-building destroyed and enslaved other cultures and people groups for the sake of financial gain and glory.
However, there are precedents and accounts within God’s Word which see it differently. Old Testament Israel becoming more powerful, when it was obedient, was a judgment on disobedient nations, and was a blessing for the ancient world. Not only that, but sometimes the Lord used pagan nations’ ambitions to judge His Covenant Nation of Israel. Then, God would judge that pagan nation. Also, Christ expanding His Kingdom on Earth in the present age is the greatest blessing. We Christians are part of that.
I’m curious as to the implications on history, as well as perhaps current events. This is where it gets sloppy, and I recognize that we can’t simply copy and paste every single thing which happens in God’s word into the present day. I want to know the general equity of how to apply this kind of thinking into everyday events. What, then, are the implications of America’s empire building? Does it mean that, despite all of the nasty going on in this country, the Lord is still showing us unmerited favor? Or, are our foundational Christian, reformed, Calvinistic principles the “failsafe,” and we keep succeeding because of the structures the founders put into the system? I don’t see America as the world’s savior, Christ is. I do Wonder about our place in the world, and what it looks like for Christians to apply theonomy in our current empire building. Which, let’s be clear, that’s what I believe we’re doing.
To expand this, what does it look like for other nations? What do we say about the British, Spanish, or the Russian Empires? To that end, what do we say about other, former christianized nations (beatings will continue until morale improves) attempting to rebuild their own empires?
I apologize for the really long question, and also the questions within questions. I find this topic fascinating, and I want to know your thoughts on the subject. I also recognize one could probably write thousands of essays on this topic. Thank you for your time!

O.N.

O.N. the short form is that I believe I agree with Nate in substance on this, but would prefer different terminology. To use the biblical terminology, I believe that America is and ought to be a “great nation,” not an isolated one. But I believe it is possible to be a great nation, engaged and active in the world, without doing all the pillaging that has been done in the name of empire.

A Book Recommendation

Listened to this writer on Joe Rogan (Rachel Wilson). Thought you might find her book interesting. It is titled “Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women’s Liberation”—it dives deep into the occult roots of the movement “there’s nothing boring about the real history of feminism”

Blair

Blair, several other people recommended her book to me, and I already have it. It is in the queue.

Shot Put for Girls

Twice recently, in two separate ”Ask Doug” videos, you mentioned shot put not being “fitting” for girls. Could you elaborate on this? By what standard is shot put inappropriate for girls? My assumption is that it’s because it’s a showcase of physical strength. But it seems to me that most athletics have an aspect of showcasing strength. High jump and long jump competitors are competing on the strength of their legs. Batting or throwing from the outfield in softball both are a showcase of strength. Attempting long shots in basketball, spiking in volleyball . . . etc. Sports as a general rule require strength among other things. What sets shot put apart as inappropriate? This is wisdom I will likely need to apply in a couple years with my own daughter. Thank you for your time.

Cloe

Cloe, you make a good point about athletics generally requiring strength. But shot put requires brute strength, and training for the event would require a girl to cultivate a physique that would be decidedly unfeminine. A girl who excels at long jump, or at spiking a volleyball, is not in that same position.

The Problem of Date Rape

I like where you’re going here, so of course I’m going to jump straight to what I believe is the most difficult situation to get right.
You said, “The death penalty should be applied to violent criminals—murderers (Ex. 21:12), rapists and kidnappers (Ex. 21:16), abortionists (Ex. 21:22), and so on.”
I certainly agree with that for violent rapists, but how do we draw the line between that and the whole sliding scale down to “she regretted a bad choice made the previous night and now claims it was date rape”? It seems like the old testament biblical punishment for that was “you’re both married now.” And unfortunately far too many rape cases are he-said-she-said . . . so we end up with a situation where we would like to apply irreversible punishment for the most dubious of evidence…

Ian

Ian, correct. We must not convict anyone unless there is independent corroboration. And rape must never be defined as a sexual episode that the woman regrets afterwards. In Scripture, a man who entices a virgin—which he might do by being pushy, or getting her to drink too much, but he was not violent—could be forced by the girl’s father to marry her. If that would be a bad choice, the father had the option of receiving the payment of a fine instead, which would go to the woman’s dowry, helping to restore her marriageability. After Amnon raped Tamar, she claimed that the crime of putting her away was worse than the rape itself. So, bottom line, I do agree that there is a category of “date rape” that needs to be handled differently from predator rape.
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Karen Cox
Karen Cox
26 days ago

Are you familiar with the Dominique Pelicot case?

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Anonymous
24 days ago
Reply to  Douglas Wilson

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Buster Keaton
Buster Keaton
26 days ago
Reply to  Karen Cox

Does it surprise you that Doug has not heard of the most famous case of marital pimping in the Western world? It does not surprise me. Doug is a pimp promoter, he has never spent any serious time thinking (or writing) about how to protect women from abusive men. Quite the opposite: he spends significant time thinking about how to provide access to women for abusive men, significant time protecting abusive men, and even more time dehumanizing women by calling them “sluts”, “hussies”, and every other slur he’s managed to learn (while literally saying they were asking for it!). That… Read more »

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E
E
26 days ago

Exodus 21:22 – 22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

Doesn’t sound like the Bible is saying death penalty for abortion…doesn’t even seem to be about abortion at all. Doesn’t even implicate the woman, except to describe her as property. Straight from the Bible and clear as mud.

Ken B
Ken B
26 days ago
Reply to  E

Keep reading!

E
E
26 days ago
Reply to  Ken B

Still not seeing it…

Ken B
Ken B
25 days ago
Reply to  E

“When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman’s husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. RSV Premature birth is probably a better translation than miscarriage. However a fine is in order where no harm follows. Reading on: If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.… Read more »

E
E
24 days ago
Reply to  Ken B

That’s talking about if the woman gets injured or dies, not the baby. What about all of the other laws from exodus that y’all don’t follow? Pick and choose much?

E
E
24 days ago
Reply to  E

Also, what did Jesus say about an eye for an eye? Turn the other cheek if my memory serves correctly…

Ken B
Ken B
24 days ago
Reply to  E

Well he did not come to abolish the law and the prophets but to fullfill them. Even thinking abortion is a moral good is tantamount to murder, even if you haven’t literally brought about the death of a human being.

Ken B
Ken B
24 days ago
Reply to  E

Why should it not include the death of the baby? That is a likely possiblity in the circumstances.

You surely know more about the OT law than to argue that modern believers pick and choose. That’s mixed fibres level.

Jake
Jake
26 days ago

Foster, have you asked your elders at what age they would be comfortable with your children taking communion?

Amazed
Amazed
26 days ago
Reply to  Jake

Foster and Jake, how about when they become Christians, reborn as Jesus outlined, able to fulfill the Scriptural directives about self-examination, etc., thus avoiding exposure to the explicit consequences for those who thereby partake unworthily? This all seems clear, simple, scriptural, and aligned with Christian orthodoxy, and does not depend on the opinions of some elder.
Why would a responsible parent take an alternate path with the child he loves? To what purpose?? In order to fit in with an upstart denomination’s heterodox theories?
Perplexing.

Jake
Jake
26 days ago
Reply to  Amazed

I am a credobaptist. If a person hasn’t been saved by the time they are 7, the parents have dropped the ball. There is no one harder to convert than a person who makes it to teenage and is not saved.

Paulusmaximus
Paulusmaximus
24 days ago
Reply to  Jake

God saved me when I was 20 years and 364 days old. My parents were heathen and didn’t know Christ. Through witnessing to my mom, who was 47 at the time, God saved her as well. God the Holy Spirit is not slack in saving folks 8 years or older.

Andrew Lohr
Andrew Lohr
25 days ago
Reply to  Amazed

What about the salvation of infants and young children? If by faith, then they’re Christians, part of God’s family, eat at God’s table. /// If by something other than faith, what the @#$%& ? /// And no matter how careful the elders are about admission to baptism or table, they’ll make mistakes. Admit on reasonable, tho not perfect, grounds, and deal with mistakes as they turn up. /// Examine to make sure you’re admitting all who should be admitted–read the context! /// Which is worse Biblically: failing to include some who should be included, or admitting some you later find… Read more »

Amazed
Amazed
25 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

Andrew, we’re not talking about salvation of infants; we’re talking about the clear teaching of Scripture concerning communion. And it seems the presupposition underlying your comments is that the elders are somehow supposed to be involved in deciding who is or is not served communion. As I read it, it’s a man who is to examine himself and personally receive either the benefit (spiritual nourishment) or the judgment (weakness, sickness, death) of his reception of the Table. What did I miss? Can you provide the Bible passage that says the elders are to be the gatekeepers? And if they are… Read more »

Jake
Jake
25 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

In Romans 7 and 8, Paul describes the spiritual state of a person in the covenant. Before they commit their first active sin, they are alive. Once they have committed a sin, they die. They stay dead until Christ saves them. This isn’t my opinion. This is Scripture. The covenantal parent is trusting that God will save their children. Whether the child is baptized as an infant or later, the faith of the parent is the same.

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Amazed
Amazed
25 days ago
Reply to  Jake

Jake, this is minor and I know your comment was directed to Andrew, but it does occur to me that Romans 7 and 8 are not discussing those in a covenant, but rather those under the law – i.e., all mankind whether Jew or gentile – thus is not a point about covenant at all. The word covenant doesn’t even appear in Romans until chapter 9.
Just wondering if your points are meant to dispute Romans 5:12?

Jake
Jake
24 days ago
Reply to  Amazed

Not at all. Romans 5 is a macro statement. Romans 7 and 8 are individual. If the child doesn’t die in infancy, they will commit that sin and need a savior. They will commit that sin because of Romans 5. The free will people stumble on the fact, that the sinner is the default mode. that is who you are. At some point in your early childhood, that is what you will choose. That is what free will naturally points to. Ask yourself: does a child who dies in the womb, go to Heaven or Hell and why?

Amazed
Amazed
24 days ago
Reply to  Jake

Well, reasonable people differ on the state and eternal destiny of unborn or very young infants. Romans 9 does say that God creates some people for different destinies, which seems to me applicable to all people from the womb onward, but I see that you have constructed a different line of thought on that subject, which could well be correct. For myself, I’m content to leave it in the hands of God, who I do believe will do all things well. Thank you for your thoughts on that subject. My interest in this conversation is focused on the question of… Read more »

Amazed
Amazed
24 days ago
Reply to  Amazed

Oops, sorry, you already did say you’re a credo. As am I.

john k
john k
23 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

The contention that 1 Corinthians 11 excludes children from the table is based on inference. Paul is not addressing that issue at all. in fact, Paul’s purpose is to include, not exclude at the table (specifically, the poor), since unity in Christ requires unity in the sacrament of Christ. An inferential conclusion might be valid, but it must be argued for, not simply asserted. Notice, Paul does not condemn their practice of families eating at the table.

John Middleton
John Middleton
26 days ago

I’ve never been a shot-putter, – I have the opposite of the physique required – but I think it takes more than just brute strength to succeed at it. So, what are the big girls to do? If they are not lithe and light enough to excel at running and jumping but are strong enough to do well at the throwing events there is no reason they shouldn’t compete in those events. Shot put is not a combat sport and there is nothing particularly unfeminine about it, and there is nothing unfeminine about a woman who happens to be above… Read more »

E
E
26 days ago
Reply to  John Middleton

Absolutely agree. It’s all based on Doug’s warped version of femininity…not everyone fits in Doug’s “box”.

Caleb
Caleb
26 days ago

While I have usually enjoy the comments and discussions after these weekly letters, lately I have often found myself somewhat nauseous by the spiteful and sometimes slanderous comments made. Yes, iron sharpens iron, but our talk should only be “such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear” (Eph.4:29). Can I remind everyone to consider Matthew 12:32 before you prayerfully post, speaking the truth in love (Eph.4:15)? Thank-you and God bless.

E
E
26 days ago
Reply to  Caleb

What about the serrated edge Doug employs? Do you think his “speech” uplifts or degrades? Is it becoming of a pastor to talk about small breasted biddies or anything positive related to slavery? https://dougwilsonsays.com/blog/insulting-degrading-language-toward-women/ “Jesus was not above using ethnic humor to make His point either…My understanding of this encounter is that Jesus was pulling his disciples’ chain…Put in terms that we might be more familiar with, Jesus was white, and the disciples were white, and this black woman comes up seeking healing for her daughter. She gets ignored. The disciples ask Jesus to send her off. She comes up… Read more »

Andrew Lohr
Andrew Lohr
25 days ago
Reply to  E

US slavery differed from slavery under the laws God gave Moses, and under the Roman empire–neither of those raised an eyebrow at manumission or slave literacy–but Moses did say some slaves with the option to go free might prefer lifelong slavery and must be allowed their choice. I’d say the Bible encourages and prefers freedom, but doesn’t lay down the Law about it as some moderns do. ‘And if God says some unpopularly nice things about some kinds of slavery, why not pastors too?

E
E
25 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

WTF…slavery apologetics. There is no good reason to support slavery in any capacity…a human shouldn’t own another human. Some, like you obviously, see the Bible as a tool for oppression, while others see it as a tool for liberation…I choose liberation…of the oppressed.

Dan
Dan
26 days ago
Reply to  Caleb

Caleb, I agree. Unfortunately, Buster and E do not agree with you — not one bit.

E
E
26 days ago
Reply to  Dan

Read my response to this…I do agree…and mirrors are meant to be looked into…

Tell me one slanderous or spiteful thing I’ve said…not saying I’m without blame, but I’m calling out inconsistencies, no smearing. You think it’s ok to call women sluts? What about cunts? Doug seems to think it’s ok, but I have a major problem with it and absolutely don’t think Jesus would use those words against people…

Andrew Lohr
Andrew Lohr
25 days ago
Reply to  E

Did he call all women sluts, or just some particular for particular reasons?
Obviously lots of women are not sluts, and you’d have to show me chapter and verse where Doug–as husband, son, father-in-law, and grandfather (and father of daughters?)–were to call women in general sluts. But some are, tho very free to repent.

Chris8647
Chris8647
25 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

She never said all women. You are creating a strawman to protect a pigman.

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E
E
25 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

It’s derogatory…that’s the point. What did Jesus say to the woman at the well (or any other woman he interacted with)? Did he call her a slut? Absolutely not…he treated women, ALL women, with dignity, equality and respect, something sorely lacking from this proprietor.
What about how Dougie portrays all women who don’t fit his mold as wicked feminists? That seems like a pretty broad/general statement. What about how he says that women are only good for making sandwiches and pushing out babies? He, and by inference you, are misogynistic, demeaning and narrow-minded. His words are poison.

John
John
23 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

E and Chris are clearly not good-faith commenters, and it doesn’t matter how many times you nuance or clarify, they’re just going criticize the serrated edge with language far sharper than Doug ever uses and caricature and blame-shift and post random beside-the-point memes. Just ignore them. If they wanna post, let them, but don’t respond; you’re just feeding the trolls.

Maybe then they’ll stop making comments here that nobody except their small troll group takes seriously, and go and contribute something to the society they keep complaining about.

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Chris8647
Chris8647
23 days ago
Reply to  John

I LOVE more fans. And I will outlast you like so many other right wing bigots, and occasional fascists, on this blog. Your feeble little jab got me feeling like Max Cady in the parking lot. “I can out-think you. And I can out-philosophize you. And I’m gonna outlast you. You think a couple whacks to my guts is gonna get me down?” You brought up blame shifting and random besides-the-point memes, and that is all I see coming out of the regime regarding their war crimes, dead Americans at the hands of ICE, and bloated Doug himself when contributing… Read more »

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E
E
23 days ago
Reply to  John

I’m still hungry!

Ken B
Ken B
23 days ago
Reply to  John

I agree that in commenting online there will always come the ‘casting pearls before swine’ moment, when you say something you may have thought about for years to someone who isn’t actually remotely interested, or is culpubly ignorant.

One way of discerning such ‘swine’ is that they will turn and attack you.

Chris8647
Chris8647
26 days ago
Reply to  Caleb

I’m just entertaining myself in the meantime before for the bitching, moaning, and accusations of “woke” after Whiskey Pete is shown the door. Not to mention likely prosecution for war crimes after the regime collapses.

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Ken B
Ken B
26 days ago
Reply to  Caleb

Believing we will give account for every careless word uttered is something that the YouTube commenting community has also largely forgotten.

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
23 days ago
Reply to  Ken B

I heard a priest once preach a sermon to the effect that some of us have fallen into the delusion that our “online self” is a separate entity from our “real self.” Just as an actor playing a villain in a play is not morally accountable if the script calls for him to heap verbal abuse on someone, we think we have a similar exemption for what our invented online self chooses to say. The priest reminded us that God makes no such distinctions. Your online self IS your real self–the self that you hide from your real life family… Read more »

E
E
23 days ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

I feel like I heard a sermon about loving others, enemies in particular…doesn’t sound like much love for “enemies” coming from this platform…

Ken B
Ken B
23 days ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

I very much agree. Indeed ‘reviling’ or verbal abuse in more modern parlance is listed by Paul as something that will keep you out of the kingdom of God, and we should not deceive ourselves about this.

Buster Keaton
Buster Keaton
26 days ago
Reply to  Caleb

Agreed, Caleb: attacking rape victims via strawmen in posts titled “A Theology of Slut Walks” — re-posted on International Woman’s Day, for maximum provocation — is grounds for serious discipline under all historical pastoral standards. Doing that while sharing a stage with Marc Driscoll? Almost too on the nose. But Doug rejects all traditional forms of accountability, so we remain in the muck that he has drug everyone into: a place where we argue about just how nazi our churches and families have become, just how much corruption we are willing to tolerate, just how much abuse should be ignored… Read more »

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
26 days ago
Reply to  Buster Keaton

Wait… you mean to say attacking rape victims is wrong? Do your fellow leftists — especially in Rotherham — know this, or do they simply pretend not to know to kowtow to their Muslim pets?

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
23 days ago

But I do wish we could have a bit more common sense about all this. These days the mere suggestion that a woman has some responsibility for ensuring her personal safety is viewed as victim-blaming. We don’t do this with every other crime. If I warn you very seriously that MacArthur Park is not safe after dark, you can reply “But it OUGHT to be safe and I have a right to see to see all that sweet green icing flowing down.” It is true that the miscreant who mugs you is 100% responsible for the crime. But it is… Read more »

Ken B
Ken B
23 days ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

The expression sanctified common sense comes to mind!

Andrew Lohr
Andrew Lohr
25 days ago
Reply to  Buster Keaton

Thank you, Wormwood.

Chris8647
Chris8647
25 days ago
Reply to  Andrew Lohr

That makes you Screwtape? Noted.

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Reepicheep
Reepicheep
26 days ago

So as for myself, a rebuilt Temple would be a huge embarrassment to both Jews and Christian dispensationalists because of the need to resume animal sacrifices. No, God would not be pleased. Revelation predicates the return of Christ on the existence of the antichrist, and according to Paul, the antichrist is revealed when he enters the temple and claims that he is God. That would seem to require an extant temple. :) But there may also be a fourth temple: the last chapters of Ezekiel depict a post-resurrection temple in which God is visibly present, the tree of life exists,… Read more »

Chris8647
Chris8647
25 days ago

Doug, would you kindly ask Pete if he has the receipt of the Tomahawk missile we sold to Iran to blow up their own school children with? Asking for a pig we are mutually aware of.

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