For Millions of Dogs

The average reader of this blog no doubt knows already what the proprietor — putting myself quaintly in the third person — thinks of Obamacare. He thinks it is a dog’s breakfast for millions of dogs. He thinks it is a smoking heap of legislative slag. He thinks it is a misbegotten travesty, a landfill of petty tyrannies, an endless string of ponds covered with green despotism, and a mountain range of volcanic conceits. Other than that, its okay.

So if you have the idea that I would tend to be supportive of anything that would deal with this pestilence, up to and including the use of tactical nukes, you have the general idea.

And so my position on the Hobby Lobby case should not be hard to fathom. Today the High Court is hearing arguments from Hobby Lobby, a company owned by the evangelical Green family, and Conestoga Wood Specialties, a Mennonite-run cabinet company. First, kudos to both of these companies for having the courage of their convictions, and for being willing to fight for them.

At stake is whether Christians will be allowed to bring their convictions into the office with them. The Court has already decided in the Citizens United case that corporations have the right to free speech. They are now deciding whether a corporation can act in accordance with the conscience of its shareholders. Obamacare requires that employers of more than 50 persons must provide coverage for abortifacients. This is contrary to basic Christian conviction. Remember this: Pro-lifers fight to save lives. Pro-choicers fight to take choices away.

And now just imagine Obama saying, “If you like your conscience, you get to keep your conscience. Period.”

This case is a significant battle in the long war. Pray for these people who have been assigned this fight. Do not make the mistake of thinking that if the marauders and constitutional pillagers win this battle, they will rest content. No, they will not rest content until we can heat our hospitals with the incinerated bodies of aborted children — like they already do in those regions of the world where Molech has risen, with despair in his wings.

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Robert
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For those of you who missed the article, in Britain until a couple days ago, they were burnig the bodies of aborted babies with the trash to heat the hospitals.

Doug Ritter
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Doug Ritter

Please…let’s not refer to abortion advocates as pro-choice. as group, they have opposed every legislative bill which made choice a greater possibility : informed consent, parental con-sent, 24 hour waiting  periods, ultrasound viewing.   In integrity, these folks would surrender the term “prochoice”. It is essential to note that they do not. Thus, yet another brick the the wall of deception that is the Culture of Death

J Tomberlin
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J Tomberlin
Reuben K.
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Reuben K.

Amen- Most especially do not make the mistake of thinking that molech will ever be satisfied.
 And pray every day that the servants of these demons will be given eyes to see the chain that binds them to their masters. Judging from history, I am nearly convinced that there is nothing an infant-hungry demon finds more amusing and useful than a sincere and spiritually blind philosopher on a leash.
Great evil is destructive by itself, but when married with great folly it is an engine of pure chaos.

soylentg
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And now just imagine Obama saying, “If you like your conscience, you get to keep your conscience. Period.”

Allow me to be the first one to congratulate you on yet another eminently “quotable quote.”

Mark B. Hanson
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Mark B. Hanson

Pro-choice is pro-abortion. Period.

delurking
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delurking

But this is absurd reasoning.  Suppose this law passes.  Now we have a precedent for the following: I am a Wiccan.  (I am not, but let’s pretend.)  I am a Wiccan, I have 50 employees at my herbal bath soap whatever shop.  I do not believe in providing any sort of medical care beyond herbal medicine, because my religion says herbal medicine is all you need. So under my religious belief I refuse to pay for medical insurance for any of my employees.  Or I am a Jehovah’s Witness, or I am a Christian Scientist, and you can see the… Read more »

Gabe Rench
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Gabe Rench

delurking- the obvious solution is to stop killing babies.  

David R
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David R

Its not absurd reasoning. In your Wiccan example, I see no problem with the owner providing only benefits that cover herbal remedies. It is their money. It is their company. It is their property and they can do with it what they please. You have no claim to their property. If you dont like this herbel benefit, then you can choose to work elsewhere or pay for insurance your self (what a novel idea), but what you cannot do, in a free society, is demand someone’s property against their will. You are perfectly fine sending Christian business owners to jail… Read more »

Rick Davis
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@ Robert. Wow! I thought Doug was stretching the hyperbole a bit when he mentioned using the bodies of aborted babies to heat hospitals. Then your comment sent me to Google… Also @ Delurking. I agree wholeheartedly with David R’s reasoning. A business owner should be free to provide whatever type of insurance he wants (or no insurance at all for that matter) to his employees with any sort of restrictions he wants. If people don’t like it, they can pay for their own insurance or work elsewhere. As far as I know, pro-life business owners aren’t forcing pro-choice people… Read more »

timo
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timo

Let’s posit as a Wiccan, okay, now what? How hot do we make the fires do do smell leaves quivker

timo
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timo

…so the smell doesn’t smell….too long

Matt
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Delurking: You’re situation is a bit different.  Medical insurance through an employer is generally seen as another form of compensation.  This is part of the liberal argument, that it would be improper for Hobby Lobby (or anyone) to dictate what employees can and can’t do with their pay, so it should be similarly improper for them to dictate what they can get with other forms of compensation.  There are two problems with this:   First, all non-monetary compensation (i.e. benefits) represent a “dictation” in this manner.  Any employee health plan will cover some things and not cover other things, as… Read more »

timothy
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timothy

Hobby Lobby is not suing to avoid providing contraception–it is suing to avoid providing abortifacients. The evil ones will have none of it. Babies must be killed.

Eric the Red
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Eric the Red

This is why we’re eventually going to have single payer.  A switch to single payer and most of these issues disappear.

Darius T
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Darius T

Eric, yes, slavery would also be a good solution to this issue.  Just because it solves it doesn’t make it right.

ArwenB
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ArwenB

Another solution would be to tax employer-provided benefits as income which would free employers to either provide insurance or to pay their workers more.
Or get the government out of paying for medical procedures entirely. (I have read that the base cost for medical procedures has mysteriously risen to the maximum amount that Medicare will pay for said procedures.)

Travis M Childers
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Travis M Childers

Well, I have an even simpler (not to mention, more constitutional) solution to the health-care woes of America: everyone should drop their insurance coverage right now. Period. Throw it in the trash, and take the money saved and buy everyone you know a copy of Cantus Christi. Our family has been “uninsured” for almost five years now. Instead of paying monthly insurance premiums, we send $370 each month to another Christian family with medical bills as part of our membership in Samaritan Ministries. Every single penny of our own medical needs has been given to us by other members. And here’s… Read more »

carole
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carole

timothy is right.  They are willing to provide a different type of contraceptive.  The point you make delurking, came up and court.  Each case would have to be heard to “separate the goats from the sheep.”

bert perry
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Regarding the possibility that companies will (per delurker’s comment) stop giving health insurance coverage altogether–well, given that company paid insurance led to the debacles we have today, this is bad exactly why?  I’d love to get the same tax advantages my employer does and (ahem) have completely portable insurance and no “golden handcuffs” labeled “Blue Cross”, after all.