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Andrew Sullivan should receive real credit for saying, as he did, that if the treatment of Brendan Eich is what the gay rights movement is all about, then he, Sullivan, wanted to be dealt out. Eich is the Mozilla CEO who was forced to resign because he donated money a few years ago in defense of heterosexual marriage, which is to say, marriage. In a tweet the other day, Andrew said, “The hounding and firing of @BrendanEich disgusts me – as it should anyone interested in a tolerant & diverse society.”

For those who are opposed to this sort of business, they will have many opportunities to register their dissent. There will be a steady stream of them. As I put it the other day, in this Tolerance Parade, the elephants just keep on coming — ow.ly/vprzA

This stand means that Andrew is not a hypocrite, and I am glad for it. When I debated him a while ago, he said that he would be opposed to some of the things that we opponents of same sex mirage were predicting would come from all this. And good to his word, this incident shows that he meant what he said. He is no hypocrite. If Andrew comes to read this, an honest well done from me.

But the fact that he is not a hypocrite does not keep him from being a patsy. He is like an idealistic revolutionary who labored for years to overthrow the czar, only to have Lenin, three weeks after the revolution, send around a couple of the boys to put a bullet in his head. It turns out that those adversaries of the revolution knew what they were talking about when they argued it is easier to keep the monkeys in the cage than it is to get the monkeys back into the cage. Our “crazy talk” predictions, laughed at by people like Andrew, are steadily, slowly, inexorably, coming to pass. He who says A must eventually say B.

But Andrew, to his credit, opposes this thuggish behavior. He is wanting to be a classical liberal on this. As he put it, he wants society to be “tolerant and diverse.” And this kind of intolerista warp spasm is nothing of the kind. It is not classical liberalism or, if it is, it is Stage IV classical liberalism. Mencken once described this sort of thing very ably. He said that democracy was the process of establishing truth by means of counting noses, and promulgating it afterward with a club. And here we are.

And so it is that I want to point out what is actually going on. It is not the death of evangelical religion, it is not the death of biblical Christianity, and it is not the death of natural marriage. In times like these, when it is easy for the Church to be at its worst, we frequently find the Church at its best. So what this actually is, what this actually indicates, is the death rattle of the secular project. It is the death of the liberal experiment — and they do not have a god who knows the way back from the grave.

I want to discuss this according to their avowed principles. Let us talk about this within the confines of what the principled liberals have declared to be their great triumph — the establishment of a neutral public space, which in their reckoning would include companies like Mozilla and Hobby Lobby. The issue here is not what I would like to see in an ideal biblical republic, or how I would define the public space. I would like companies to be able to sack someone for his views, but I would want that freedom to be granted across the board to all companies.

No, the issue here is what is classical liberalism going to do about this outrage — on their terms? The answer is nothing, because they are impotent. They have unleashed forces they do not understand, and which they now find to be overwhelming. The whole thing is way beyond them now. They are like a hapless John Kerry, explaining once more to Vladimir Putin that this is the 21st century, and that he can’t just “take Crimea.” To which Putin replies, “Yes? Watch me do.”

The heyday of liberalism in America was probably the civil rights movement. They were up against a segregated establishment that had significant inertial force, but which was nonetheless guilt-ridden because of how blacks had been treated. It felt like a real battle to them. They had the high moral ground. They had dedication, youth, energy, and bad folk songs. They had a dream, and it didn’t involve Al Sharpton. They were going usher in an Eschaton filled with marshmallow clouds and unicorns. But now . . . something like this happens, and it is evident that this is now standard operating procedure. This is a world in which error has no rights. The central ideal of their whole project is insulted, and with the back of the hand, but because it is done for the sake of irrational lusts, instead of thoughtless bigotries, there is nothing the liberals can do about it. And so they all stand there, hands in pockets, wishing it were a little black girl wanting to go to school — that way they could call out the National Guard. But alas, the victim is a smart, rich, white guy — like most of them — who really wanted to live in a free country — unlike most of them.

This helpless, hapless state of affairs is because the liberal project is rapidly assuming room temperature. All four hooves are pointed at the sky. Their secular city is a smoking crater. Their ship, the USS Mutual Respect, has foundered on the rocks of our public lusts. Their polity ideals are on the fritzing haywire. They are laid-up, stalled out, caved in. Their alabaster blocks for building the new city of man turn out to have been the kind of material they use to make castle walls at Disneyland. They are all metaphored out, and all stove in. I could go on in this vein, but I trust the point has at least been approximated.

And this death of liberalism is a really good thing for real Christians. The apostle John tells believers this — “little children, keep yourselves from idols.” This tells us that the little children of the church are susceptible to that temptation. But the temptation has to be cleverly presented. Your average Christian is not drawn to the yawning maw of Molech. He is easily drawn to the hazily defined god of secularism. He will not be drawn to the next outré Tolerance Fruit Parade. So why should we lament the death of an idol that really was a snare to us, just because it leaves standing an idol that won’t be?

Once the secular experiment is revealed to all of us as a sham and a fraud, there will be many hundreds of thousands of Christians who stop following a tiny Jesus in the privacy of their own hearts and homes. They will then walk out into the daylight of the public square, blinking.

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DCHammer
10 years ago

Wow! Standing O! As Phil Keaggy said, “What a day that will be!” But liberals, conservatives and myself will all be blinking. This will not be the the coming of a suburban, white Republican kingdom any more than a rainbow progressive kingdom.

MIchelle
MIchelle
10 years ago

Did you omit a “not” in the first sentence of paragraph four, or is that me misreading you?

Thursday
Thursday
10 years ago

Sullivan is feuding with his own readers here.  They came for the anti-Christianist rhetoric, and now he’s dismayed at the entirely predictable results of that rhetoric. I’ll say this again, if denying marriage to gays is a grave injustice, then there is nothing wrong with strong social sanctions, including dismissal from employment, for those who have fought against it.  If it is within the bounds of acceptable opinion that gays should not be able to marry, then that implies it was not a grave injustice to keep them from marrying.  If it was not a grave injustice to keep gays from marrying,… Read more »

Will G.
Will G.
10 years ago

I am glad he said that – but what does being ‘dealt out’ look like? 

James Bradshaw
James Bradshaw
10 years ago

Thursday writes: “..if denying marriage to gays is a grave injustice, then there is nothing wrong with strong social sanctions, including dismissal from employment, for those who have fought against it.” How do you figure?  I’m sure you believe abortion is a moral offense (and, in most cases, I’d agree).   Do you therefore conclude that those who support Planned Parenthood or who vote against legislation such as “The Heartbeat Bill” should be fired from their jobs?   I don’t, just as I don’t think employees should be fired from their jobs for opposing or supporting gay marriage. I say that in… Read more »

Jane Dunsworth
Jane Dunsworth
10 years ago

I am glad he said that – but what does being ‘dealt out’ look like? 
 
My reaction on reading that was that it means precisely nothing. It’s a rhetorical flourish — “if this is what it’s about, deal me out. But I won’t concede that’s what it’s about.”

Jane Dunsworth
Jane Dunsworth
10 years ago

I’ll figure out the formatting one of these days.

Seneca Griggs
10 years ago

Let us make it ever more unpopular to be a true Evangelical.  Let us find out who will stand when the secular and liberal/Christian forces are arrayed against us.  Let us experience for ourselves whether or not this is the Living God and that we can trust Him and His word.

Roy
Roy
10 years ago

Seneca, very nice.

Thursday
Thursday
10 years ago

<i>Do you therefore conclude that those who support Planned Parenthood or who vote against legislation such as “The Heartbeat Bill” should be fired from their jobs?</i>
 
I don’t particularly see why not?  If the political position is bad enough, people should suffer consequences, including having others dissociate themselves from you personally and economically.

Andrew Lohr
10 years ago

Should we postmils sit at ease in Zion waiting for the postmil tide to come in?  However white the fields may be, they won’t harvest themselves.  Pray the Lord of the harvest to send out workers.  (Not that Doug sits, but something in his tone resonated with some of my favorite temptations.)

Gervase Markham
10 years ago

As a Christian and as an employee of Mozilla, my take: http://blog.gerv.net/2014/04/your-ire-is-misdirected/ . Comments welcome – email me. Address on http://www.gerv.net/ .

Eric the Red
Eric the Red
10 years ago

I agree with Andrew Sullivan; Eich should not have been fired, or made to resign, or whatever it is that went down.  In general, I don’t think people should be fired for their religion or their politics unless it is interfering with the job they were hired to do.  But I think this is a closer case than you do. The Prop 8 campaign was an ugly, vile affair in which gays were portrayed as pedophiles and child rapists, who only wanted marriage so they could destroy it.  It was the functional equivalent of an ad campaign depicting Blacks as… Read more »

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

DC is right. Question becomes how violent it will get before that happens.

Melody
Melody
10 years ago

Well, by the same token, then, the leadership at World Vision needs to go.

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
10 years ago

It’s not dead, it’s resting.

wyclif
wyclif
10 years ago

Hi Doug—great piece. I just wanted to drop you a ‘heads up’ to let you know there’s a preposition missing in the sentence “They were going [to] usher in an Eschaton filled with marshmallow clouds and unicorns.”

Arwen B
Arwen B
10 years ago

I have to admit, I was highly amused to see one of the dissenting comments to Sullivan’s objections to the Mozilla kerfuffle.
From his “dissents of the day” column:

Instead, he [Eich] stonewalled, and more insultingly, he wrapped himself in the mantle of tolerance (the whole stuff about Mozilla’s “culture of inclusiveness”), essentially saying, “If you’re really tolerant, you must tolerate my intolerant views and continue to interact with the organization I lead just as before.” Please. He’s entitled to his views, but he’s not entitled to people’s cooperation.

The last sentence is just… one for the tone-deaf hypocrisy scrapbook.

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

All the Dems have for voting is racism.

Eric Stampher
Eric Stampher
10 years ago

Did that light appear around the 300’s as well?  Are we somewhat repeating Rome’s demise?

Matthew Hoover
Matthew Hoover
10 years ago

Hi Pastor – FYI, it seems like some posts are missing off your front page. I saw a couple of new posts on the site in my RSS feed over the weekend (one about Noah and a sermon outline about unity). They continue to show up in the RSS feed but are missing from the home page when visited with a browser. Perhaps something is wrong with the WordPress theme? 

Arwen B
Arwen B
10 years ago

 However white the fields may be, they won’t harvest themselves. 

Fun fact, and completely off-topic: I am told that when fields go white, it means that the grain is so ripe that it has begun falling out onto the ground; i.e. that it is past time to begin the harvest and any delay loses you that much more wheat.