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Grace & Peace
Again…my Grace & Peace posts are over at ChristKirk.com
Or, “I’d Expected They’re to Be Less of You . . .”
Now That Is A Goodly Bit of All Right
Open Road
HT: Daily Timewaster
The Left is tasting it’s own medicine
A great evaluation of what the Left did to contribute to its own electoral downfall:
For all the numbers guys out there…
You may find the NY Times’ breakdown of election demographics to be quite telling/interesting:
The Davenant Trust
If you haven’t heard about the Davenant Trust, I place this here as a way of piquing your curiosity
Praise Pics
And some nice folks out Montana way have a service you might want to check out.
Left still crying wolf. HT Scott Adams.
Great analysis. Completely undermines the narratives from both the liberal media, and misguided Trumpers. I liked this part: As multiple sources point out, both Hillary and Obama voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which put up a 700 mile fence along the US-Mexican border. Politifact says that Hillary and Obama wanted a 700 mile fence but Trump wants a 1000 mile wall, so these are totally different. But really? Support a 700 mile fence, and you’re the champion of diversity and all that is right in the world; support a 1000 mile wall and there’s no possible explanation… Read more »
Alexander conveniently omits how he’s guilty of exactly the same thing. (He also thinks that Trump’s public persona is a result of “being weird and not understanding social norms”, which says more about Alexander than Trump.)
I realize that ashv voted for the guy, but the pictures of Trump waving the LBGQT rainbow flag have got to hurt his narrative; let alone the reminder that Trump was once interested in Oprah Winfrey as a running mate back in 2000.
Not sure what “narrative” that hurts. Trump is a ’90s liberal. (Whereas katecho and Wilson are 18th- or 19th-century liberals.)
ashv wrote:
Of course ashv thinks that conservatives are liberals too, so he has also cried wolf too many times to use those words effectively as an insult against me.
I would just point out that ashv was the one who voted for the LGBTQ flag waving Republican candidate. I’m not sure he as any high ground left to stand on.
You’re aware Trump would still have won even if I didn’t vote, right? :-)
ashv wrote:
Perhaps every unprincipled Trump voter is comforting themselves with this same rationalization. Of course they can’t all be right.
In any case, I was referring to ashv’s lack of credibility when trying to label others as liberal. His own actions betray too much inconsistency and opportunism.
If by “opportunism” you mean “taking advantages of existing opportunities to advance my interests”, then I cheerfully admit to it.
Perhaps you’d like to explain why conservatism isn’t a branch of liberalism.
I mean opportunism as opposed to principled action. If ashv is admitting that he is not regulated by principle, and simply acts according to his self-interests in the moment, then that would explain a lot. ashv wrote: Perhaps you’d like to explain why conservatism isn’t a branch of liberalism. I’ve explained elsewhere why ashv should not equivocate historic classical liberalism with modern American liberalism. It’s completely self-serving the way he leaps back and forth between those two concepts in order to pin the label on whatever donkey he has his sights on. I have also given my definition of religious… Read more »
There’s nothing to leap back and forth between. Modern American liberalism aka progressivism is a descendant of classical liberalism, as is conservatism, libertarianism, etc. The surface-level differences obscure an acceptance of the same political insanity.
ashv wrote: The surface-level differences obscure an acceptance of the same political insanity. Perhaps his experience with RINO politicians has caused him to think that all differences are superficial, but that would be to ignore why RINOs are called RINOs in the first place. As I said, I’ve provided a definition of conservatism that is not compatible with progressivism, and I’m happy to do it again. Not that ashv has shown himself willing to really engage to follow his own assertions through with supporting arguments, but it would be interesting to see if he can actually name a principle that… Read more »
What principles do American conservatives accept that are insane?
Let’s start with two:
Belief that individuals (and property rights) are ontologically prior to society
Belief that lower authorities can bind higher ones
In other words, they believe Locke was right and Filmer was wrong.
So why did you do it?
To irritate katecho.
I like all you guys, but that line was pretty good.????
‘ Also lines up with the fact that traffic happens, to annoy me personally!
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18th or 19th century liberals?
Not 1st century?
Gosh Ash, I think you might have hurt their feelings! ; – )
Rob, your posted article was OK, but both your guy and Wilson’s guy have way too much time on their hands, unless they can write over-long articles, work their day job and work around the house all at the same time.
By comparison, some of us only write one or two really long sentences at a time! ; – )
Ahaha, don’t hate on Alistair! :)
No hate intended. ; – )
It’s just that I probably have the attention span of Alistair’s last guy,
Johnathan Pie! ; – )
I’m very curious about whether Alistair is right, and that Pie is representative of enough of the Left that we’ll look at an improvement in the dialogue of the nation in the next four years, or not. :)
Never heard of either of them before now.
Pie is over the top, but at least he knows it. ; – )
I think my patronus is an Alistair Roberts.
I really appreciated Alexander’s estimates on the numbers in the alt-right. Finally, someone who doesn’t even agree with me politically who thinks that it’s a tiny fraction of the conservative movement.
I know! It’s like a number that low couldn’t even support the mayhem and destruction caused by a “love” hates trump flash mob!
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If Carlos Slim’s blog (aka the New York Times) got pre-election polling as wrong as it did, why should anyone give credence to their post-election polling?
Here is a goodly bit of even better from Wovenhand:
The Laughing Stalk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMe6JrOzmqw
And Horsetail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5oi7r6ZdY
Excerpt from Horsetail:
“For unless he draw them
They will not come
For no man seeks him
No not one”
David Eugene Edwards is part Cherokee and is the lead singer and guitarist and banjoist (and plays an early instrument that is like a combo between a banjo and a mandolin called a “mandola” or “banjola”) for the band Wovenhand. Wovenhand tends to defy categorization – they’ve been called “gothic folk/Americana” and have elements of Native American music, Americana, folk, gothic, medieval, industrial, alternative, gypsy, blues, bluegrass, etc., etc.
Hey, those Daily Timewaster pictures are beautiful! Thanks for sharing them.