The Content Cluster Muster (09.23.21)

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One time a fellow was driving down the highway, and he saw what looked like a hitchhiker up ahead. As he had a policy of never picking up hitchhikers, he didn’t worry about it until he drove past him. At that point, two things struck him at the same time.

The first was that the guy didn’t seem to be hitchhiking at all, but rather just walking down the side of the road. The other was that he was carry a strange collection of burdens. He had a loaf of bread in his right hand, a bottle of what looked like orange juice in his left hand, and over his shoulder there was something that looked like a car door. In fact he was sure it was a car door.

After a few seconds, his curiosity got the best of him and he pulled over to the side of the road, got out of his car, and walked back toward the man with the strange possessions. When he got close to him, he asked if everything was all right, and did the gentleman need any help.

“No, thanks,” the guy said, and just kept on walking.

The motorist joined him, as they were walking back in the direction of his car now, and his mind was racing furiously about how to ask his question. After a minute, he decided there was no way it wouldn’t be awkward, so he started with the bread.

“So,” he said, “do you mind my asking why you are carrying a loaf of bread?“

“Well,” the fellow answered, “whenever I gets a tad hungry, I jest takes a bite.”

Huh, thought the motorist. “And the orange juice?”

“Same thing. Whenever I gets thirsty, it is right ch’ere, and I jest takes a drink.”

But what was really bothering our motorist was the car door—and it was a car door—and so he said, “Well, that all makes sense, but why a car door?”

“Well,” the man said, “whenever I gets a-mite hot and bothered, I jest rolls down the winder.”

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Robert
Robert
2 months ago

wow. simple, powerful, and revealing way of organizing that VAERS data. I’m in my late 60’s, fairly good health it seems. I got the 1st pfizer shot 6 or 7 weeks ago, and am now debating on whether or not to get the 2nd one. For me it has come down to this….. which will I regret *least* if it occurs? …. to get the 2nd shot and die from the “vaccine”…. or not to get the shot and then die from coronavirus…. all things being equal least regrets of dying would be to get the shot and then die… Read more »

Joseph Hession
Joseph Hession
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

One way to think about it is that the comparison is not really “take the vaccine and be protected vs don’t take the vaccine and be unprotected.” Try comparing vaccine efficacy vs early treatment efficacy (not vs “wait it out”) >> The vaccines are unsafe relative to our historical tolerances. Intravenous Vitamin C + Zinc, Ivermectin, HCQ, Regeneron, Nebulized Budesonide are all safe. >> Neither prevent infection. Both are equally effective at reducing hospitalization and death rates (see: https://ivmmeta.com/ and https://c19hcq.com/) >> Vaccine efficacy wanes within months. Early outpatient treatments are timeline agnostic. >> Vaccine immunity is narrow and unsuitable… Read more »

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Joseph Hession

I’m not confident in being able to get that alternate treatment (e.g. Ivermectin) in a timely manner.

Joseph Hession
Joseph Hession
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

You can walk into a Tractor Supply store and get it in the form of horse paste to have it on hand. Don’t laugh. It is exactly the same stuff. Very easy to dose based on weight. If you are uncomfortable with self-care, here is a good alternative: https://aapsonline.org/

On their site you can get a list of physicians by state that offer early outpatient treatment as well as teledocs who will prescribe ivermectin as a prescription.

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Joseph Hession

Thanks Joseph

Cherrera
Cherrera
2 months ago
Reply to  Cherrera

The previous link was a detailed post about doing what Joseph mentioned. This is a more lighthearted look at the acquisition
Meet Dr. Ivor Mechten | Drive With Me – YouTube

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Cherrera

Thank you Cherrera.

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Cherrera

Everywhere around here appeared to be sold out… so I found some Ivermectin and Bimectin (Ivermectin) on Amazon for about $25 a tube. They are both paste and both 1.87% …. hopefully this will work.

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Joseph Hession

You’re using websites for Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine that have already been shown to use retracted, fraudulent, and incompetent studies in order to derive their claims. Why do you trust their results when they haven’t shown themselves to be trustworthy?

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I’m curious if anyone who is taking prophylactic Ivermectin as an alternative to using vaccines tested against the HEK293 human embryonic cell line is aware that Ivermectin has also been tested and studied using the same line of cells derived from an abortion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2217454/

Nathan Tuggy
Nathan Tuggy
1 month ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

Jill, you probably have no reason to check back here, but on the off chance you or someone else sees this, there’s really no equivalence between taking a drug that someone, somewhere, at some point has unethically tested and taking a drug that could not exist without unethical testing. Ivermectin, as far as I know, was not developed with fetal tissue cell line testing, so there is no ethical problem. (Similarly, some foolish people have argued that e.g. aspirin can’t be taken by anyone with such qualms of conscience, and that therefore such qualms are ridiculous, ignoring the fact that… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

Where would you get the idea that “all things being equal” though? You’re thousands of times more likely to die of Covid than to die of the shot.

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Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I hear you, Jonathan. Jonathan, you seem to have a reputation around here and I don’t read in detail all the threads of your discussions. But may I ask you a question which may be a logical fallacy (e.g. non sequitur, ad hominum, etc.), but…..respectfully, Do you believe there is a good chance the 2016 election was fraudulent/stolen? Do you believe the “mainstream media” (e.g. cbs, abc, nbc, pbs, New York Times, etc.) are basically, clearly biased to the left? Are you a follower of Jesus Christ as He is revealed in the Bible? Like I said technically, these questions… Read more »

Cherrera
Cherrera
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

“Are you a follower of Jesus Christ as He is revealed in the Bible?” The answer is a resounding “no.” Of course, he’s bragged on here dozens of times about what a devout Christian he is, which is odd. That sort of “pride” is never commended in the Bible, but is associated with a certain abominable group that share many of Jonathan’s political leanings. In fact, the overlap of common positions among pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ and Jonathan is stunning. He may claim to be a red-letter “Christian who believes parts of the Bible that don’t conflict with modern “science” or NPR/WaPo–and… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Cherrera

Cherrera, dismissing the faith of someone you’ve never met because they differ from you on politics is bold. Especially considering what the Bible says about those who judge.

Can you cite any I have ever made on this blog that shows I lack faith in the God of Jesus Christ? No phishing expeditions – either quote the exact statement that justifies your judgment, or have a conversation with your pastor regarding what you’ve said.

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  Cherrera

Cherrera, flat out lies do not become you. I have never heard Jonathan brag about his devotion to Christ. I have never heard him advocate abortion. I have never heard him defend the morality of gay sex. If you were not willing to comb through Jonathan’s comment history to find evidence to support your most unbrotherly accusations, you shouldn’t have made them.

And it is news to me that Christians aren’t supposed to read the Washington Post.

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

I’d be interested who you think I have a “reputation” with. You can look even just at the last two comment sections and see very positive things said about me by very reputable posters, and negative things said by other posters who may not be considered reputable even by their ideological allies. And yes, my opinions on completely unrelated subjects have no relation to the truth of the statements I just made, since those statements are based on public information that can be evaluated on its own merits. But to humor you, my answers would be: * No, I do… Read more »

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Hi Jonathan, Thanks for responding. At the risk of getting in over my head with someone smarter than me… I think we are both lazy/naive in different ways. Me in my research and evaluation of the hard data on the “vaccine” and COVID deaths…. you, sir, respectfully, in your evaluation of media based on the narrow criteria of whether or not their journalists face consequences for lying. There are lots of ways of being slimy and sneaky and biased without ever telling an outright lie…. and to my mind the (generally understood) “mainstream” media does it all the time to… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

That “narrow” criteria isn’t the only means by which I evaluate the media, I just believe it is certainly the most important. Other criteria include being able to compare different reports to each other and see where important facts are left out or overlooked, watching for how often they makes claims that are unjustified by the facts presented, looking to see how trustworthy they’ve been over time, and comparing media reports to what I see directly from people in the relevant fields. And I don’t base any important position or opinion on the veracity of a single media source, nor… Read more »

Last edited 2 months ago by Jonathan
JohnM
JohnM
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

Why those questions here? In a discussion of vaccines and alternate treatments? The last one is a good one to ask of anyone, the only one that matters in the end really,- and how do you answer it? – but why those three questions together, here?

Jill Smith
Jill Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  JohnM

There seems to be a desire to drive Jonathan off the board. He spoils the prevailing narrative with his pesky attachment to data and evidence. Sadly for them, I doubt that he is a fragile snowflake likely to melt in the hot gusts of outrage being generated by his detractors. Even I am not that. I say that if the neigh-sayers want to buy Ivermectin intended for horses, cows, and sheep, I’m not going to argue with them. Jonathan felt obliged to point out that there are, as yet, no widely accepted studies indicating that it is effective. Because if… Read more »

Ken B
Ken B
2 months ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

It might be that Jonathan overdoes it a bit, but I can’t blame him in the light of so much disinformation or rumours being spread about the virus and vaccines from those with a political rather than medical viewpoint. This ought not to be a party political issue at all. There is a very real danger of evangelicals identifying with the lunatic right – the individual is everything and the collective nothing. Some of them are mirror images of LGBT etc etc woke activists, in that the highest good of both is personal autonomy. I do wonder about the judgment… Read more »

OKRickety
OKRickety
2 months ago
Reply to  Jill Smith

Jill,
“I say that if the neigh-sayers want to buy Ivermectin intended for horses,….”

Is neigh-sayers instead of naysayers intentional?

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  JohnM

Hi John, i have neither the time or clarity of mind to try to analyze all the statistics from various sources people share here, so those questions are just a quick, lazy, subjective way for me to try to get a sense how “credulous” the people are. Like I said it isn’t necessarily sound logic. I guess it’s possible I’m just reinforcing my own rabbit hole echo chamber, but I also think there is some truth to birds of a feather flock together. I hope I’m not showing any disrespect to anyone or doing to others how I wouldn’t want… Read more »

Michelle
Michelle
2 months ago

In a number of countries, (Australia, Trinidad & Tobago, others if anyone can be bothered to check out the stats) more people have died of the vaccine than of the virus itself! And in a fraction of the time, given that deaths from the virus have been tracked since January of 2020 and the vaccines were only begun in February 2021. Literally more deaths from the vaccine than from the disease. One more measure of the insanity.

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Michelle

That’s not even close to true in any reality. Australia currently reports 1,220 deaths due to Covid and just 9 deaths linked to the vaccine.

And that’s despite Australia managing to limit their Covid cases to just 95,000 total yet giving 26,000,000 doses of vaccine. So 1.3% death rate from Covid, 0.00003% death rate from vaccine.

https://www.aap.com.au/australian-vaccine-death-claims-are-a-data-dupe/

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Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Michelle

The claim is false for Trinidad and Tobago too, and wildly so. They report 1,441 deaths due to Covid and 0 deaths due to the vaccine.

Where are you getting your information? Where do you check to verify that the claims they’re making to you are correct?

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/09/22/deyalsingh-five-adverse-reactions-to-covid19-vaccines-but-no-deaths/

Ken B
Ken B
2 months ago
Reply to  Michelle

“… more people have died of the vaccine than of the virus …”

Do you mean died of the vaccine, the vaccine being the actual cause of death, or do you mean died after having the vaccine given?

Last edited 2 months ago by Ken B
Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Ken B

Her statement wouldn’t be even close to true even if she was trying to use it in the 2nd sense. Both Australia and Trinidad & Tobago have reported over a thousand Covid deaths, even the most exaggerated means of falsely claiming “vaccine deaths” wouldn’t give them close to that many.

Last edited 2 months ago by Jonathan
Ken B
Ken B
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. Great play was made in the UK over whether you died of covid or with covid. Few die of covid, so this was used to downplay the seriousness of the disease. In Germany, sterben an or sterben mit has the same difference, but reporting morphed into died in connection with covid. If you die with covid where pre-existing conditions and/or age made it much worse leading to death, you are still dead! It is a pretty awful way to go. As far as I am aware there are no treatments for covid, but Pfizer… Read more »

B. Josiah Alldredge
B. Josiah Alldredge
2 months ago

Okay, that VAERS data is pretty confusing. Are these taken at different times?

Mark H.
Mark H.
2 months ago

Remember that VAERS data is self-reported. It is in no way a random or scientific sample. One would assume that when a new vaccine is introduced, or vaccine awareness is heightened, there would be more reports to VAERS than otherwise. And older vaccines have known side effects which a user would expect. For example, one would not typically report arm pain from a tetanus vaccine to VAERS. The other thing is that VAERS data is reported as totals, not proportionally to population (reports per million doses, etc.) So if vaccine doses increase significantly in a year, we would expect a… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark H.

Every day in America, about 8000 people die. So when they were giving millions of doses of vaccine per day, by random chance you would expect 40-50 vaccine recipients to happen to die, especially since older people with health issues were the most likely to get the vaccine. When people randomly die days after taking the vaccine, they often file a VAERS report even if the vaccine had nothing to do with it.

Thus the # of VAERS death reports is lower than you would expect by random chance even if the vaccine didn’t cause a single death.

Last edited 2 months ago by Jonathan
Kristina Zubic
Kristina Zubic
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Talented dead people, able to file a VAERS report while dead…

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Kristina Zubic

Sorry about the unclear pronoun placement, “they” refers to the literally anyone who can file a VAERS report. The fact that just anyone can file one and that they don’t have to give any evidence that the vaccine was related to the injury/death is why health workers don’t consider those reports medically meaningful until they’ve been investigated and evaluated. People like Doug who keep quoting VAERS #’s out of context are dumbing down the discourse.

Last edited 2 months ago by Jonathan
Joshua Lister
Joshua Lister
2 months ago

Doug likes madebyjimbob memes. He has good tastes.

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago

In the 4 weeks ending on September 4th, Idaho recorded 1,443 deaths. In those same 4 weeks in 2019, Idaho only recorded 1,048 deaths. That suggests close to 400 excess deaths in just four weeks, an increase of almost 40%.

Yet there were only 170 “official” covid deaths during that time, demonstrating that Idaho almost certainly is undercounting covid deaths, not overcounting them.

This pandemic is real and is having a real effect on the lives of your neighbors.

Jonathan
Jonathan
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

And that wasn’t even the peak – since September 4th the “official” weekly death toll from Covid has more than doubled and appears to be peaking right now. The excess death toll has likely grown even more. This is why mortuaries are literally running out of room for bodies.

COVID-19 has killed thousands in Idaho. Funeral homes are struggling to store bodies
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article254425558.html

Daniela Byers
Daniela Byers
2 months ago

Would it be possible to get a link to the site with the VAERS graphic from above? I would love to see the context. Thanks, Mr Wilson!