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JP Stewart
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And shortly after this went to press today:
“Overturning Roe v. Wade isn’t worth compromising with Trump, my fellow evangelicals” by Ron “Thabiti” Burns
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/06/28/overturning-roe-v-wade-isnt-worth-compromising-with-trump-my-fellow-evangelicals/?utm_term=.9f5276fa703a

Ian Miller
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While is strongly disagree with Thabiti, I think the disrespect shown here is pretty gross. Thabiti claims his own vote for Hillary was the most godly choice for a pro-life voter, and I just can’t see that. I couldn’t and still don’t see a way to vote for Trump myself, but I respect those who did as a lesser of two evils. Neither could I vote for Hillary, since I didn’t see her as lesser. But I also respect those who did that. But to say that living in Hillary’s America would have been more civil, been better for protecting… Read more »

JP Stewart
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What disrespect? If you’re referring to his name, Ron Burns is actual birth/Christian name. “Thabiti Anyabwile” is what he changed it to during a black nationalist/Muslim stint. If a white guy named Tom Smith went through a silly neo-Nazi/Euro-pagan journey, changed his name to “Wolfgang Himmler” then refused to change it back after a Christian conversion, I’d do the same thing.

Ian Miller
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I don’t think you intend respect by using a name he does not use for himself. Are you telling me that there’s no mockery or disrespect in your use of Ron Burns as his name? You intend to show that he’s a fake, not worth listening to. That is disrespect. You may think it’s merited, but don’t try to pretend you’re being respectful.

JP Stewart
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I’m not “pretending” to do anything. I suppose if he were sacrificing live children to Molech, I should still address him by his black nationalist name?

Jill Smith
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Jill Smith

I can’t read the WAPO article because of the paywall, my ten free articles have been used up on the first of the month. Ian, did he explain why he chose Hillary over Bernie Sanders? I wouldn’t have voted for Sanders, but I find him more honest, more rational, and more civil than Mrs. Clinton.

Ian Miller
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He doesn’t mention Sanders. I think he mentions Hillary because she was the opponent Trump actually faced, instead of a protest vote, which is what a Sanders vote in November would have been. (I do think Bernie has more integrity than Clinton, but an honest person who honestly loves the Soviet Union and Cuba more than America is pretty horrifying to me.)

OKRickety
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Ian, “While is strongly disagree with Thabiti, I think the disrespect shown here is pretty gross.” Jesus said: “So you, too, outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.” [Matt. 23:28 NASB] The man (whatever you want to call him) has clearly shown his true colors on many occasions. The name used by JP is far less “disrespectful” than what Jesus said about the teachers of the law and Pharisees in Matthew 23, where he called them hypocrites, like whitewashed tombs, and a brood of vipers. It is my opinion that you are a… Read more »

Justin Parris
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100% on board with OKR and JR on this one. For one, I don’t think there’s any objective way to call the name disrespectful. The only one I can think of, is the far left idea that everyone gets to determine the only words the entire world must use to refer to themselves, with no qualifications whatsoever. I don’t think many here ascribe to that concept. Secondly, ok, let’s say it’s disrespectful. So what? The man is arguing that it is a Godlier stance to allow children to be murdered rather than work with a given person who is (on… Read more »

Ian Miller
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So, to recap:

1) It’s objectively not disrespectful, and if you disagree, you’re a far leftist.

2) Even if it is disrespectful, disrespect is deserved.

Justin Parris
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“1) It’s objectively not disrespectful, and if you disagree, you’re a far leftist.” No. That is not what I said. There’s a difference between something not *being* objectively disrespectful, and claiming that it objectively *isn’t* disrespectful. You claimed the color red was a “good” color. I said that you can’t objectively claim that. That is all. I did not say “The color red is objectively bad.” What I said was the only reason I could think of was from a far left concept. That doesn’t bar you from giving me a reason I hadn’t thought of, and holding on to… Read more »

Ian Miller
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My disgust at this post has nothing to do with being nice. It has to do with respect for someone I know is godly, vs. an internet poster who is mocking and nasty, and has no apparent indication of wanting to be Godly other than being right on the internet. The same arguments were used when I disagreed with John Piper – he’s wrong, therefore it’s fine to mock him and assert all kinds of false things about his character and motives. So no. I don’t care about winning as much as I care about acting rightly. Not nicely. My… Read more »

OKRickety
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Ian, “I don’t care about winning as much as I care about acting rightly. Not nicely.” I notice you have avoided my reference to Jesus’ behavior with the Pharisees, et al. Those men were also “godly” but Jesus did not treat them with respect, because their behavior was not what God desires. Are you disgusted at Jesus’ behavior? I would hope not but sometimes one wonders. If not, why don’t you do the same with this man? His behavior is at odds with Christianity. He should be treated like the Pharisees. Do you want to act rightly like Jesus, or… Read more »

soylentg
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Thanks for the link JP. The comments section was very revealing. The volume of God hating/ Christianity hating replies which were fully in support of Anyabwile might be a wake up call for a Christian. I can’t yet go so far as to say Thabiti is a false convert, but I will say this: it would not shock me to have him to convert into a Black Hebrew Israelite.

Jill Smith
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Jill Smith

And if it results in yet another name change, can we ask for one that isn’t quite so impossible to say and spell?

JP Stewart
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The Agitator Formerly Known as Ron?

Justin Parris
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One can only hope he doesn’t become a fan of Superman comics and changes his name to Mxyzptlk

Nathan Smith
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I read this article and I keep waiting for the “so what.” I try to give Thabiti the benefit of the doubt and assume he’s just a bad writer. But almost everything he writes is like this. It seems calculated to say nothing except tear down he disagrees with. And it is even hard to figure out who that is. Previously he doesnt want “white people” to “feel guilty” about MLKjrs murder, but he wants those same white people to realize they are complicit in the same murder. Which is it? Now he wants Roe v Wade struck down but… Read more »

The Commenter Formerly Known As fp
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The Commenter Formerly Known As fp

I’m sure Ron Burns will sleep well at night, knowing that no sacrifice is too great (in this case, the unborn) in service of his hatred for Trump principles.

Jill Smith
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Jill Smith

Justin is thinking: “Can I ask him to put some hand sanitizer on that before I shake it?”

Justin Parris
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Ugh. Can’t I have one decent famous Justin? Trudeau, Bieber, Timberlake. Where’s Justin the Chess master who juggles chainsaws while he plays?

JP Stewart
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It would be hilarious if the #metoo mob goes after Trudeau. I don’t think they’d do that to such a prominent far-left ally, though.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/metoo-eh/news-story/3b76448b659c683d2fafa1ced7c78c5d