The Collapse of Their Righteousness

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I have just a couple points this morning, and not surprisingly, they are all related to the continuing Planned Parenthood scandal.

First, no one should doubt that the pro-abortion party is reeling, and there are objective grounds for saying this. And second, their precarious position needs to be connected, at every opportunity, to the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.Orwell Truth

First, look at the extraordinary thing that has happening in just the last few weeks. We had a straight up-and-down vote in the Senate yesterday on defunding Planned Parenthood. A majority voted in favor of defunding them, and this was revelatory on a number of fronts. This vote happened after only a third of the videos had been released. Do not doubt the potency of these videos. That is why a judge who was a big Obama fund-raiser slapped a restraining order on them. There were, ahem, um, legalities, points to consider, due advisement. Yeah, right. If you are thinking that the same legalities would be in play if this were a secret video of caddies at Augusta bullying a fellow caddy for being gay, then you have quite a career in naivete waiting for you. The remaining videos are a lit stick of dynamite, and the bad guys know it.

As I was writing this, David Daleiden released the next video anyway, and good on him. We must back that man to the uttermost. That’s another reason for asking each presidential candidate to promise to give Daleiden the Medal of Freedom. This must be put to the Democratic candidates as well, not just the Republicans. He should release the video they have put the corrupt restraining order on, and if they threaten to jail him for that, they need to be threatening someone who is already a national hero. As I believe he already is.

This Senate vote put everyone on the record, including Lindsey Graham, last seen disappearing into the tall grass. His idea of a profile in courage is “asses and elbows.” All the Democrats but two voted in favor of continuing massive federal subsidies to the nation’s premier merchant of baby pieces, and all the Republicans but one voted in favor of defunding. Such votes matter, and we are just a handful of votes away from the 60 votes needed — and your senators are now home on recess. That means you can speak to them. You can get at them. This issue needs to come up at town meeting after town meeting — #HowDareYou? #DemocratsSellBabyParts #AreYouKidding? #NotInOurName #DefundPPAlready #AnotherBoyAnotherDollar

But here is how it all ties into the gospel. To my mind, the single most striking thing about this whole controversy is how the White House is pretending to be above it all. Josh Earnest thinks that someone there has likely seen the videos, but looking at the videos is somehow not necessary. Earnest hasn’t and the president apparently hasn’t. Jake Tapper of CNN said this, wisely enough, in response to Earnest: “somebody at the White House should maybe watch the videos.”

Why haven’t they?

This is not just a matter of not wanting to see something that might be harmful to your position, that would provide some modicum of evidence against it. No, it is far more fundamental than that.

The apostle Paul says this about the perennial human desire to be righteous on terms other than what God offers. “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God” (Rom. 10:3). Notice that — going about to establish our own righteousness is the only alternative to submitting ourselves to God’s righteousness. Only two ways to go. Either you submit to what God says is righteous, or you go about to establish your own system of righteousness.

So their whole worldview is built on the assumption of a high and lofty moral superiority. Egalitarianism, feminism, all their isms, the whole lot, is a supercilious worldview that has specialized in looking down on the unsophisticated masses. America has been an “imperious whorish woman” (Eze. 16:30), but one that has aspired to be a virtuous one — defined in her own way of course. The reason they don’t want to look at these videos straight on is that it reveals them to be unrighteous. That would be intolerable, and they will try any device rather go along with it.

So this is far greater than a threat of their political sway, or their cultural authority. This whole thing is the collapse of their righteousness.

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Kent
8 years ago

John 3:19 “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.” It is no wonder they don’t want to see the videos. It might shed Light on their evil deeds. We (humans) never like our sins exposed to the light of truth.

Josh Reighley
8 years ago

The day is coming soon that channels will exist where censorship will be impossible. One could drop 12 videos, with specified release dates into the peer to peer cloud, and nobody would be able to stop them, barring shutting off the internet entirely. No court order, no jail threats, no bullet to the head. What is scheduled to be published will be published.. That technology is months away.. It will be interesting to see how the game changes once people are truly free, not only as free as the government allows them to be.. The Crypto-anarchists are winning — and… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  Josh Reighley

I agree with you. and it is a fascinating development for the Gospel as it will spread quite well within the Bazaar and does not require a Cathedral.

adinahoshour
adinahoshour
8 years ago

I am so grateful for all the people who stand so bravely in defense of life, unashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ while wielding the sword of the Spirit. The Goliath of Planned Parenthood defies the living God and will fall.

Tim Graham
8 years ago

Just a minor correction. What happened yesterday was not actually a straight up or down vote on whether to defund Planned Parenthood. It was a vote as to whether to end the Democrats’ filibuster over the bill. That’s why a 3/5 majority was required instead of a simple majority.

Rob Steele
Rob Steele
8 years ago

Like sunlight on vampires.

Jimmy
Jimmy
8 years ago

I’m not sure the latest release defies the court orders. They only block the release of videos showing StemExpress employees and the annual meeting of the National Abortion Federation.

Ray D.
Ray D.
8 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy

The third video, with the StemExpress employee, seems to have disappeared off of their website. I suspect that is because of the court order.

Jimmy
Jimmy
8 years ago

And eventually the videos could be pulled from YouTube, so I encourage everyone to do like I’ve done and go to keepvid.com to download them.

Kelly Rose
Kelly Rose
8 years ago

The federal court order only applies to videos of the National Abortion Federation conference(s). The state of California court order only applies to videos of StemExpress employees.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/08/04/judge-extends-hold-on-planned-parenthood-recordings-made-by-anti-abortion-group/

katecho
katecho
8 years ago

Could someone in the mainstream media explain how PP gets human organs out of a non-human clump of cells? Did the woman in the video say intact “cadavers”? Did somebody die?

If nothing else comes of this, we will at least have a whole new level of vocabulary that PP will be required to wear around their neck if they want to insist that this is all simply “legal”. They (and we as a nation) must now say that harvesting human organs from 16- to 22-week-old “cadavers” is perfectly legal in the U.S.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

PP has been operating ‘legally” for nearly 9 decades. They have an understanding of the laws they operate under and they comply with the Law.

What is interesting in all this storm of moral outrage, is that no one dares to propose to change the laws that are currently on the books.

katecho
katecho
8 years ago

It seems that Sells is doing his best to “stand with PP”, but compliance means not altering abortion procedures to protect the crunchy bits. In this particular storm, the offense is that PP and StemExpress are breaking even the laws that allow them to traffic in baby parts, and they are doing it with soulless capitalistic indifference. This is a moral crisis for our nation, not simply a legal one. Daring to propose a change in the laws has been led by Christians since 1972, but at this moment, the focus is on PP illegality, greed, hubris toward the law,… Read more »

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

Hi katecho, I’m sure you will find suitably evangelical lawyers to make your case. ;-) You are referring to Title 42 of the US Code of Regulations? http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title42/42tab_02.tpl “It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for use in human transplantation if the transfer affects interstate commerce.” The law does include fetal tissue in its definitions. It says that the term “valuable consideration” doesn’t include “reasonable payments” for removal, transportation, preservation and other associated costs. Also. PUBLIC LAW 103-43, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH REVITALIZATION ACT OF 1993… Read more »

Alex in Wonderland
Alex in Wonderland
8 years ago

I referenced these elsewhere, fyi…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/planned-parenthood-seeks-fed-study-of-fetal-tissue-research/2015/07/29/689a3428-3651-11e5-ab7b-6416d97c73c2_story.html?tid=hybrid_content_1_na
“And a thoughtful, careful review by leading medical and ethical experts
could do a lot to help the public and policymakers think through this
issue and reach informed conclusions.”

and

http://www.onenewsnow.com/church/2015/08/07/far-left-clergy-defend-pp-leave-out-key-word
“Rather than respect religious
liberty and individual conscience,” the clergy group wrote, “some seek
to impose their values and work obsessively to limit access to health
care on individuals despite the fact that denial of health care may have
a tremendous impact on their families.”

katecho
katecho
8 years ago

Sells points to the “legality” of harvesting and selling baby parts (for the cost of expenses). But that makes about as much sense as pointing to the legality of burning the unborn alive with saline, crushing their heads, and ripping them out piece by piece. That holocaust is perfectly legal too. We are still against the murder of the unborn, even if it is legal. The difference in this case is that PP is unsatisfied with legalized murder, and they appear to be breaking the law regarding the technique of the murder and regarding the disposal of the body. Sells… Read more »

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

However, your you stated that “clinical research” is illegal.

It is not “illegal”, it is gross.

You want to make “gross” jobs illegal?

Watch a dozen episode of Mike Rowe

http://www.ted.com/talks/mike_rowe_celebrates_dirty_jobs?language=en

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Your constant evasions are not unnoticed. Your repeated tactic of counter-attack in lieu of an honest response will not work. You will be held to account here. You have a choice. You can man up and debate on the merits, answering counter arguments as people make them or you can continue to flee behind your clouds of distraction. If you choose the latter, I will hunt your ass down like a hound on a coon. Your intellect does not impress. Your rhetoric is laughable. For a Southerner, your polemics are unworthy of the genre. You are no Wolfe, You are… Read more »

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

timothy shouts —> “Now this man ceaseth not to utter blasphemous words against the law of Moses, and also God. Did we not enjoin and straitly command you,that you should not teach in the Name ye follow? And lo! ye have filled Jerusalem throughout with your unlawful doctrine! He hath said, and our ears have heard him: Jesus of Nazareth, He shall destroy all these our holy places, and change all the customs which Moses delivered us…” Mark answers, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.” Jesus Christ is… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

This evasion will not work.

Your repeated tactic of counter-attack in lieu of an honest response will not work.

Again, what is the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

“St. Stephen” Saint Stephen with a rose, in and out of the garden he goes, Country garden in the wind and the rain, Wherever he goes the people all complain. Stephen prospered in his time, well he may and he may decline. Did it matter, does it now? Stephen would answer if he only knew how. Wishing well with a golden bell, bucket hanging clear to hell, Hell halfway twixt now and then, Stephen fill it up and lower down and lower down again. Lady finger, dipped in moonlight, writing “What for?” across the morning sky. Sunlight splatters, dawn with… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Answer the question. What is the Gospel of Jesus Christ

Your repeated tactic of counter-attack in lieu of an honest response will not work.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

I answer you truly, Jesus Christ is THE WAY, Jesus Christ is the TRUTH, Jesus Christ is THE WORD, the command that brought all things into being. Jesus Christ is THE LIGHT of Creation Then the Lord answered… Now gird up your loins like a man, And I will ask you, and you instruct Me! “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? “On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Closer, but no cigar.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ, please. Do you know it or not?

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

We are at an impasse.

I will continue to hold my position (from several threads ago) that if you choose to use lies in the name of Jesus Christ, you do not know the Gospel.

I will go further with you when you denounce satan, and all his works.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Jesus rebukes Satan.

We are instructed not to rebuke in our name but in His.

Now, what is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
We will go no further until you answer that question.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

gospel is the translation of the Greek noun “euangelion” and the verb “euangelizo” meaning “to bring or announce good news.” Further, the noun “euangelion” became a technical term for the message of victory, though it was also used for a political or private message that brought joy. The central TRUTH of the gospel is that God has provided a way of salvation for men through the gift of His son to the world. The gospel is good news because it is a gift of God, not something that must be earned by penance or by self-improvement However, in order to… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

The central TRUTH of the gospel is that God has provided a way of salvation for men through the gift of His son to the world.

No, not “a way” , “the way”. You are getting closer. Keep going.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

…and you are getting farther…

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Hi Mark,

You still have not gotten the Gospel of Jesus Christ correct.

Since you cannot relate the fundamental creed of my (your?) faith, I cannot accept that you are a Christian and I cannot accept any of your “Christian” arguments until that is done.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Likewise, I cannot accept that you have understanding of the Gospel. The grace of God is free to all who accept it. You are not the person to deny it.

Mortals who use lies to attempt to control other people should not call upon the name of Jesus Christ while they do follow the whispers of the opponent.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Closer, But you still have not told me the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

You wrote: of God is free to all who accept it.

I agree with this. Accepting God’s grace is an act of will.

Do you not agree that there are those who see no need of it? Who do not want it?

Do you agree that for a person to get to the point where they acknowledge their need for grace we call the act of repentance?

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

timothy, no. I do not agree. You are correct that repentance is important to a fully Christian life. However. repentance is not a prerequisite to salvation. “…He has said to me, ‘My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.’ Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, …” Grace is sufficient for our salvation. and that was my point several threads ago when the subject was denying the sacraments to people that some “Christians” consider sinners and outcasts. The first step is always to accept God’s Grace and His covenant. Yes… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

You are correct that repentance is important to a fully Christian life.
However. repentance is not a prerequisite to salvation.

To ensure that we are talking about the same thing, let’s start with the definition of ‘repentance’

I yield to you to go first.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

The example at hand will do. We are bombarded daily with media lies: Commercials, opinions, rants, slanted stories,… An acquaintance of mine provides the ‘voice-over’ for TV and radio commercials selling MacDonald’s Chicken Sandwiches, Ragu Pasta Sauce, Midas Mufflers, Coors Beer, Raid Ant and Roach Killer, Pizza Hut, … He calls his job “polishing the turd”. The advertisers’ job is to distort the truth, so that we will buy shit we don’t need, with money we don’t have. It is an evil system that preys upon the ignorant and unwary. He provides the friendly sympathetic voice that you want to… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Hi Mark, I concur on the lies that are advertisements. One could also use the example of a christian employed by the defense cartel to wage war. For the Christian to be led by the Lord to a new line of work would be part of his sanctification and would involve repentance–the man recognizes his work is useless and turns to the Lord. My definition of repentance is recognition of sin and turning to the Lord*. Do yo concur? *Elders, if I am missing or misstating, please correct me here. Mark Allen Sells, I do not consider you an elder… Read more »

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

The original discussion was why Christian Churches can deny the sacraments to homosexuals, but do not ban gluttons and liars and the like. We do not ask if a glutton recognizes their sin and turns to the Lord.

https://video.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfp1/v/t42.1790-2/11845288_933041246757053_1340920958_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjM0MywicmxhIjoxNTIwfQ%3D%3D&rl=343&vabr=191&oh=d4df91a8c9f374b88d65041974f23e45&oe=55D0CE09

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Our present discussion is on the nature of repentance. Lets get this settled before moving on.

Do you concur with my definition I stated above? i.e. My definition of repentance is recognition of sin and turning to the Lord*.

*Elders, if I am missing or misstating, please correct me here. Mark
Allen Sells, I do not consider you an elder (yet), so I am not asking
you to correct me here.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Yes, and assert that Douglas Wilson has not repented, yet continues to partake of the sacraments while denying the sacraments to others, compounding his sin.

Therefore illustrating that the unrepentant are not barred from God’s covenants.

You have not answered my question.

Do you renounce the devil and all of his works?

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

Yes, Thank you and assert that Douglas Wilson has not repented, yet continues to partake of the sacraments while denying the sacraments to others, compounding his sin. Accusing others of hypocrisy is not an argument. It is an attempt to disqualify Wilson using faulty scriptural reasoning. For example: Every Catholic is a sinner, yet may partake of the Eucharist. No Catholic may partake of the Eucharist–even those non-catholics who are better behaved and morally upright than the catholic Do you renounce the devil and all of his works? I am not familiar with this doctrine from Scripture, so I am… Read more »

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago

Mark,

Could I get a “nuanced understanding” from you of “participation?” If Thomas (1981)/Hobby Lobby (2014) were decided correctly, then your understanding of “participation” is incorrect. But, if they’re mistaken, you should be able to explain why they are wrong. If you can’t do that, perhaps you should back off your “Pastor Doug is misinformed when he isn’t lying” theme?

Thx

kmh

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago

Pastor Doug knows exactly what he is doing and, if he is half the Bible scholar you claim he is, he knows which commandments he has broken. He lives in a clear and clean moral world. (I do not.) Yet he does not care, he does not stop, and he does not repent. …and also does not bar himself from the sacraments that he denies to others. If an Evangelical baker refuses to bake a wedding cake because they see themselves as participating in a wedding; …and an Evangelical employer refuses to provide health care benefits because they might participate… Read more »

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago

First, “participation” is a secular/legal concept. Caesar has no legitimate role in who a church does or does not allow at the communion rail, nor is “the reason why” a secular concern. We Methodists only require the person be a Christian, and if he/she says “I am one” that’s all that’s required. Further, we don’t ask. We simply announce we have an “open table” and we presume anyone who shows up is a Christian. Caitland Jenner or Rue Paul could show up, hand-in-hand, in full regalia, and no church which I have ever attended would turn them away. Second, still… Read more »

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

I will pray for you timothy, that you may be released someday from the lies that bind you.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

Correction “…renounce…” Do you believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth? Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary, suffered death and was buried, rose again from the dead and is seated at the right hand of the Father? Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting? Do you renounce Satan and all his works? May almighty God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

I affirm the Apostles Creed.

What is the scriptural basis for “Do you renounce Satan and all his works?”

We are to place our hope and trust in Him, not ourselves. It is the Lord who defeats the evil one. Not us.

I repeat. What is the scriptural basis for “Do you renounce Satan and all his works?”

Alex in Wonderland
Alex in Wonderland
8 years ago

Rest assured, there are those of us who understand completely why you would choose to not respond to some comments. And we do not believe it is for the same reasons others believe. We can take their advice on foolish behavior just as well as they can :)

Alex in Wonderland
Alex in Wonderland
8 years ago

Concerning the link below. Christian ethics indeed…Mark, do please take note. Just another fine example.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

katecho, off topic but I think you will find the exchange leading up to this comment:

https://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/just-watching.html#comment-2181750051

illustrative. In my opinion Eric just got bucked off his free ride on Christian ethics. If you missed the exchange, I think you would appreciate the heads up.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

You want to prosecute them, or defund them?

Is the enemy the sodomite depraved perverts who run the country, or “science”?

You’re just chasing your (vestigial) tail.

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago

Mark, Somehow I missed this when you first wrote it, but you’re only quoting HALF the law. The “selling” dispute is only a CPA thing. At some point there will be audits and PP either collected more than their costs or they didn’t. That’s pretty plain vanilla. But the OTHER half of the law seems like there’s a LOT less gray area. It’s a violation of a federal criminal statute to alter the method, timing, or procedure solely to harvest the organs/obtain the tissue. See 42 U.S. Code § 289g–1(b)(2)(A)(ii). Since you cited SOME of the law, and a section… Read more »

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago

Reverend Wilson eschews an historical perspective. He is not making any distinctions in his rants against the “whore of Babylon” (except of course for Dr. Ben Carson – apparently His dead babies were not ‘dead babies’ -you know. “dead babies”) . Wilson’s target has switched from ‘sodomites’ and “depraved perverts” to “Clinical Researchers”, because they are not sufficiently disgusted by the science that they perform, and do they do ‘gross things’. So he has whipped up the stinking blind lynch mob to attack ‘science’, by saying that it is “science for profit, and you will find the proof later”. PP… Read more »

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago

Took me a while to swim through the 150 gallons of octopus/squid ink you squirted over the question I asked, but please try to get back to the topic I raised – – is PP complaint with “alter/mean/method” or not?

P.S. Sorry I’ve flunked tact once again.

katecho
katecho
8 years ago
Reply to  Nan

Very interesting, thanks. From the article:

When will the ACLU take up CMP’s case in San Francisco? I’d
guess that will happen at roughly the same time that media outlets file
amicus briefs on behalf of CMP to protect undercover journalism, which I
predict will roughly be … never.

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago
Reply to  katecho

katecho – –

NOT ONE amicus was filed in support of Michael Mann, while loads of mainstream media filed them in support of Mark Steyn. 60 Minutes pioneered the undercover/secret videotape. So don’t be surprised if the MSM comes along before this is over.

katecho
katecho
8 years ago

“We all want progress, but if you’re on the wrong road, progress means
doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case,
the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” — CS Lewis

paulmlawr
paulmlawr
8 years ago

Pastor Doug.. while these videos are gaining ground they are still somewhat not viewed by the public. Partially because they know what’s in them and they don’t want to see and partially because they are in complete denial. Given the last few videos displaying the body parts, the thought occurred to me that it might be getting to be that time to not only share the videos but to also grab some screen shots, particularly of limbs being displayed, and embed them right into the posts along side video link and hashtags. This last video displayed some rather large and… Read more »

Nan
Nan
8 years ago
Reply to  paulmlawr

We’re already on top of that! I posted directly to potus and presssec “In case you haven’t gotten a chance to watch those videos yet, here’s the most relevant bit.” Picture of perfect hand. The same hand picture is going viral with other statements like, “Raise your hand if…” Do it. It is time to get real.

Led By The Shepherd
8 years ago

Is there anyone more ironically named than Josh Earnest?

Malachi
Malachi
8 years ago

What I can’t figure out is, does he Josh, or is he Earnest?

Bugs
Bugs
8 years ago

“imperious whorish woman…” Babylon the Great, anyone? Hope not. Oh, and the verse link pointed to Ezra instead of Ezekiel.

katie
katie
8 years ago

I’d like to see #PPWrongSideofHistory start trending. It’d be a fun little jab after being used for gay marriage, and the Wilberforcery of the whole thing is all too clear when the idea of “personhood” comes up.

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago

“To my mind, the single most striking thing about this whole controversy is how the White House is pretending to be above it all.” How so? The only deviation from the standard operating procedure used for every other scandal to date has been the omission of “I only found out about it from the news” and “No one is more angry than I am.” After skipping the first two pages in the playbook, the rest is par for this White House’s course. Next we’ll hear “All of this is old news,” followed by “It’s already been thoroughly looked at,” ending… Read more »

Luke
Luke
8 years ago

You said only 1 republican voted against the bill, but (correct me if I am wrong) didn’t 2 republicans vote against the bill? McConnell (KY) and Kirk (IL)?

Kelly M. Haggar
Kelly M. Haggar
8 years ago
Reply to  Luke

McConnell was a procedural/Robert’s Rules of Order sort of thing. Anyone on the winning side can bring up the matter again. So it’s common for the leader to vote the opposite way to enable calling up the bill again.

Ellen
Ellen
8 years ago

“What the public also needs to know is that a season of short-lived outrage is not enough. The public was outraged in 2000, and many people thought something was done about the baby body shop industry. But the industry’s lobbyists went to work, the politicians went on summer break, football season started, attentions wandered and now here we are, watching videos exposing what we should have known all along — there is a burgeoning and thriving baby body market here in the United States, where flesh is bought and sold and none of the people on the auction block get… Read more »

Benjamin Bowman
8 years ago

I would like to offer up the hashtag #killingisnotcaring

jigawatt
jigawatt
8 years ago

#CashNoMatterWhat

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago

Poor Lindsey Graham. The dear Southern Belle must have the vapors after reading what Reverend Wilson says about him from his mountaintop in Idaho. —> {“Notice that — going about to establish our own righteousness is the only alternative to submitting ourselves to God’s righteousness. Only two ways to go. Either you submit to what God says is righteous, or you go about to establish your own system of righteousness.”} Reply- Reverend Wilson, Your ‘righteousness’ has more to do with Saul than Paul. Your worldview in Moscow “… is built on the assumption of a high and lofty moral superiority.”… Read more »

ArwenB
ArwenB
8 years ago

You are more concerned with manufacturing moral outrage than pondering the potential birth of millions of black children.

Why does the prospect of the birth of millions of black children bother you so much, Mark Allen Sells?

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  ArwenB

You intend to force the birth of millions of black babies (<—Douglas Wilson's words) that no one wants, no one will feed, no one will raise.

By the compulsion of your arguments, and your invocation of the Lord God those babies belong to you.

You people can't even stand the brown colored babies that grow large enough to climb the fence at our Southern border.

;-)

jillybean
jillybean
8 years ago

So, is your point that these black babies would be better off dead?

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  jillybean

The point is -by your own invocation of divine will, you have made yourself responsible for them now, and I don’t see any of you doing more than exercise your moral outrage.

You need to build schools, homes, hospitals, AND CHURCHES,… grow more food, raise more taxes,..

What is your plan? You defund Planned Parenthood, force the births of 400,000 ‘new’ black babies in New York alone, then sit back and congratulate yourselves about what good Christians you are?

jillybean
jillybean
8 years ago

Where are you getting your numbers from? US Govt says 95,500 abortions for all races on average in the last few years in New York state, with the numbers steadily decreasing.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  jillybean

Oh, I agree, but that is not in Reverend Wilson’s purpose. Abortions cannot be a horror unless there is a GROWING number; unless dead babies are spilling into the streets. Educational programs MUST be ineffective lies, widespread contraception and family planning MUST be an evil plot, perpetrated by the “depraved perverts” that (apparently) have always run America. Women who have learned about their own reproductive functions MUST be making bad choices, based on PP Propaganda, and MUST be stopped. Or else how can there be righteous moral outrage? Oppressive “Sodomite policies” against the participation of the Christian Church as an… Read more »

timothy
timothy
8 years ago
Reply to  jillybean

Mark Allen Sells is a pro-abortion “christian”. I have asked him several times to articulate the Gospel and he replies “The Gospel is Truth” as if MSNBC, by telling the ‘truth’ is articulating the Gospel.

Mark Allen Sells
Mark Allen Sells
8 years ago
Reply to  timothy

AM Not

I am an anti-mendacity Christian.

timothy
timothy
8 years ago

First, “christian”, write here the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Hint: “The Gospel is Truth” is not it.
I await your reply.

Second, to materially support abortion is to be pro-abortion. To argue for abortion as you have is to be pro-abortion.

‘Mendacity’ you cite; mendacious you are!

Todd Robinson
Todd Robinson
8 years ago

Surely this has already been suggested, but when will Women’s Right begin to stand up for a patient’s right to make money off her own fetal tissue? Why should PP make money off my womb? Those livers, lungs, etc. are MINE to sell! They owe ME. The new home business.

Matthew Abate
Matthew Abate
8 years ago

I think many followers of this blog and its proprietor need to know the following information. In the interest of establishing the fact of “The Collapse of Their Righteousness,” it appears that my home state of Florida’s investigation of its 16 Planned Barrenhood chapters has produced some fruit. Florida’s state Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) cited 4x PP chapters: 3x for performing 2nd Trimester abortions and 1x for improper documentation of fetal tissue disposal. Here is the news piece for all inquiring minds: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/4-planned-parenthood-locations-cited-after-gov-rick-scott-orders/2240127 Final point, my hope is that this is an indicator that some have reached the… Read more »

Ian Miller
8 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Abate

Excellent news, thanks for sharing!

andrewlohr
andrewlohr
8 years ago

Petition the White House that our President watch all the videos and comment about them in person?